Shut up.

I did not state anything that was not true in any of the posts. I have a pretty beastly PC, and it should not have trouble playing a game like skyrim. Nor should anyone else with half my specs. Unfortunatly, the reality is many people are having issues.

Wait, if you know they do this with every release, why are you surprised?

Idiot.

Who said I was suprised? I had hoped that all the crap they said about learning from Oblivion and past mistakes would be taken care of in Skyrim, but I always knew better than that. I just simply want them to stop bothering with patches that take way too long and fix nothing, and release the kit so we can fix the stuff. I think you assume too much for someone calling someone else an idiot

Last I checked you were the one starting the ad hominem insults.

How well your computer runs an almost 5 year old game means nothing.
Do you know how drivers work?
Ever heard about a little game called RAGE that came out recently?
Do you check beta releases for your gfx card's drivers?

You bring up many good points that serve to prove my views correct. The fact that crysis has FAR better graphics being that it's many years older, and playes smoother too, says something doesnt it?
I have the nvidia beta drivers 290.36 specifically made for Skyrim.
Rage, another Bethesda title, was and is internationally known as one of the buggiest, poorly textured and poorly optimized games ever made by Bethesda. So why you would even use that name in your argument is beyond me, seeing as the simple mentioning of that game ruins your whole argument.

I was gonna answer your entire post, but with that statement, any credibility you had left went out the window.

RAGE's problems were exclusively because of ATI and nVidia not providing their updated drivers optimized for the game in time, so we ended up with a game that uses features your GPU has never heard of.

Playing rage with even the current official drivers already proves that it was a driver issue, not a problem with the game.

The drivers were only one issue, the game still looks and plays like garbage for just about everyone. But then again, that IS poor optimization on Bethesdas part, not just Nvidia/Ati. That pattern seems to happen a lot with Bethesda releases. I don't see Bioware having these issues.

Considering they just worked their fking asses off to the bone to create this masterpiece, i think they deserve a fking break~ That, and it's also close to christmas~
I for one can and will wait patiently until they fix the bugs, this game isnt like fable, or da2, or whatever rpg you care to think of, this game is pretty much a world on a disk, an incredibly huge crafted game, so fixing bugs that dont effect the rest of the world will take a liiiiittle damn more then a few days to make! They are taking it slowly, and thats good, it shows they care and dont want to rush out craptastic patches that turn the game upside down and into a realm of Sheogorath so to speak.
Huge games like this take time, so until then you can [censored] like a child, or wait with the rest of us. [censored]ing and crying does not bring that patch to us any faster, and if it did, then you and the rest of the people that [censored] and cry will only make the game worse by making the developers release shoddy patches.



I for one love this game, and cant wait to see how it ends up in a few years time with expansions and mods~

Guess what? They are professional's, no excuses. This is what they do, just like Bioware, Blizzard, EA and every other developer who is making games this time of year. The others aren't asking for their consumers to "calm down" (and I quote Bethesda). Release a quality product that plays well and is not essentially a beta that I payed 60 bucs for, and I will calm down.

On another point, you sound like Bethesda's PR team. Consider a career change?

While i love aspects of skyrim i have to say i am disapointed that bethesda have chosen not to address the serious game breaking flaws in the main questline and a few other quests in this first patch.
FIX the IMPORTANT STUFF FIRST please !
For an alleged sandbox game i have found far too many problems with AI failing to respond. Thank the gods for the console, but... being forced to use console commands to get past broken quest parts really destroys any continuity and spoils the flow of the game. WTF where your quality control and testers doing for 5 years? smoking crack? when major bugs are released in the Main Questline its really poor from a company with the track record of Bethesda, did any of you actually play the game before you sold us it ?

on another note:
It is a clear breach of advertising standards and trading standards in the UK and many other countries to make false claims when advertising a product ie " Steam is only needed to activate but is not needed to play".
This product was sold under a misrepresentation of the facts and that is illegal in many countries.

yes that last steam patch that stopped us from being able to run the game from the .exe without touching steam seriously annoyed me - steam uses system resources i would much rather be used to improve my gameplay experience and frame rates - i dont give a damn about steam achievements they can stick that useless crap where the sun doesnt shine.
WHY didnt bethesda make them roll that patch back ?
NONE of this rubbish from steam effects people who havent paid for the game it only effects those of us who paid our money so why oh why do we put up with it when steam have been forced to roll back patches in other games by the developers after public outcry from thier customer base.

I honestly cannot see skyrim lasting as long on my hard disk as morrowind and oblivion did. its a hollow shell with some pretty eyecandy compared to those two previous titles. no longer an rpg but a first person hack and slash fest.
Character development and achievments are non existant - save the world from a dragon that wants to eat the world and after you are done theres absolutely no sense of achievment or reward or did you honestly think that a little icon on steam was gonna give the same sense of achievement as an actual reward in the game would ?
I can only surmise that the dumming down of the game is in line with the dropping IQ of the human race these days, anything more complex than counting to 10 using your fingers is out it seems.

Seriously dissapointed.
Bethesda you are losing loyal customers.

At the end of the day Beth got their perfect reviews, their own personal defense force on the forums and millions in game sales. They don't care what we think. People will eat it up no-matter how buggy or glitchy it is. Thats why they keep releasing less and less quality games. And work less and less hard to keep them updated.

Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim. Funny, they keep making higher sales marks, getting great reviews, selling huge numbers of the expansions to said "buggy games"...

I played both Oblivion and Fallout 3 on the 360. Not an issue on either beyond dead bodies acting like they had defib paddles hooked up to them. Well over 200 hours on each. Can't make a statement of personal experience on Skyrim (not released here until December), but some people clamour for the games because they're damned good.

I partially agree with the OP.
Bethesda should put more love into their games AFTER they are released and fix all the things they messed up instead leaving it to mods.
I'm personally sick of fixing everything before I can even start to mod in things which will make my TES experience richer.
Mods should be there only to add something extra to the game, not to fix mistakes made by Bethesda.
Still, let's wait a bit and see how things turn out.
I personally believe that Bethesda will not abandon Skyrim and will do their best to polish the game to mirror shine.

Agreed. Just give up supporting skyrim on the PC bethesda, and let the modders do it. They are so much better than you.

go back to playing wow and suing McDonalds for burning yourself with hot coffee plz k thnx

You are overreacting like it's an artform. And you are not even -trying- to be a bit more moderate. What exactly is your goal in this discussion?

They are useless! If it wasn't for them modders won't even have a game to mod... Totally useless, they should just give up on game making in general. *Sarcasm Face*

Considering they released a patch much faster than most companies *Dead Island for example and their game breaking bug which took them over 2 months* even though the game is HUGE, i think they are doing well~

On another point, you sound like a child who needs his diaper changed. Consider going Pampers?

I am ranting, even tho Bethesda couldn't care less

RAGE was developed by ID software and published by Bethesda Softworks. Skyrim was developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks.

The developer and publisher are separate entities, the developer part, that created Skyrim, had absolutely nothing to do with RAGE. For better or worse

However, Skyrim is a curious game. It's absolutely amazing and embarrasingly half-assed at the same time

I'd like to see you make a game with a huge world, packed to the brim with content without having bugs.
The patch fixed some bugs, while making potentially new ones.

IT HAPPENS WITH EVERY COMPANY WITH EVERY GAME!

I agree with this. I have seen LOTS of what the modders have been able to come up with and much of it is nothing less than brilliant even now even before the ck is even released! I always buy the pc version because I know that there will be modding. Were it not for this, I probably wouldn't have bought the game.

If your that unhappy then simply uninstall the game and move on.

Oh yeah, I'm sure the first thing after working on a game since the release of FO3 is to root through the forums for everyone's problems.

Hell, they aren't even human, they don't have family's.