Bethesda: Maluka, the girl who did the amazing ‘Dragonborn C

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 am

Are you referring to Keenan Cahill? Calling him an "ugly deformed girl" is really ignorant, by the way.
Observance is ignorance?
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:06 am

She should get all the support she needs! I loved that when I heard it really is one of the most beautiful things Ive ever heard sung GO MALUKA!

EDIT: @Gstaff thanks for passing the message along
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:54 pm

Observance is ignorance?

Because dissing others talent (however great or small it may be) makes you look cool.

And obviously her right to justice is predicated on your personal opinion of her ability. Nice.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:24 am

Who cares? Her cover isn't that good and that's what happens on the internet.

Listen to Lisette singing it, then try and put Malukah down.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:51 pm

Lots of people can sing, even marginally so, and there's nothing special in that video.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:16 am

Lots of people can sing, even marginally so, and there's nothing special in that video.

So you think a person's ability determines their right to their own creation?

Based on views and likes, it represents a healthy chunk of ad revenue, regardless of your minority opinion.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:13 pm

Lots of people can sing, even marginally so, and there's nothing special in that video.

...except that it was made, and lots of people like it :)

See this point of view a lot, from people who do not do anything.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:38 am

Who cares? Her cover isn't that good and that's what happens on the internet.

Pure class.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:28 pm

3 pages and neither has the topic starter provided any source for this, nor did anyone ask for one. Very strange...

He only linked to the video. So?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:44 pm

That's impossible.

As long as you give credit to the original artist, you can cover ANY song you wish, and she has not made any money off it, and therefore doesn't have to pay any royalties. If any company tries to own her music she can take them to court, and she will win even with the worst lawyer in the world. She said that the song belongs to Jeremy Soule and Bethesda, so she's set. She would only be brought to court if she took the credit for writing the song and released it for profit, then she can be taken to court (think Led Zeppelin)

Plus...it's just youtube....think about that ugly deformed girl that only sings other people's songs and has celebrities come on. She monopolized that and made money off it, and yet nobody tried to own her videos. Maluka on the other hand just recorded a cover without any profit, just for the sake of fun and sharing it with others (I think).



In other words, quit exaggerating, she doesn't need any help.
I think their claim is that the company actually made that particular recording, not just the song.
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:04 pm

http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/violent_crimes/extortion.htm

Its not extortion because they're not forcing her to do anything, and they didn't threaten her. They're simply abusing youtube's built in IP protection system to try and assert control.

They're only stealing her rights to advertising money generated by her videos, assuming she's even participating in an ad program.

She's a victim, yes. But not of extortion. She can still sue them for damages if she's claiming their actions have harmed her ability to advance her musical career or if she can successfully sue for the advertising money they've collected using the video.
Couldn't they be sued for fraud because they are trying to use something they do not own as a means of revenue?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:51 pm

3 pages and neither has the topic starter provided any source for this, nor did anyone ask for one. Very strange...

He only linked to the video. So?

She refers to it a bit on her twitter. Pete Hines replied with his support at one point.

http://twitter.com/#!/malukah

The OP didn't explain very well.

Couldn't they be sued for fraud because they are trying to use something they do not own as a means of revenue?

Possibly, but companies like this know that few of their targets have the money or the knowledge to do so. Odds are the 'company' consists of three lawyers and a handful of assistants. THey don't produce anything of worth, they're just parasites.

Its not a patent dispute, although lawyers like this also like to form patent troll companies when they have enough startup capital. Bets are that they have multiple businesses that pull various types of IP-related shenanigans.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:32 am

...except that it was made, and lots of people like it :)

See this point of view a lot, from people who do not do anything.

No, lots of people..... just wouldn't bother....... it's a rather poor song from a video game. Not exactly something on the top of anyone's list to cover...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:09 pm

On what grounds can they claim anything? Figured only Bethesda would be able to that and they have no motive to do so.

Could they cause harm if she chose to ignore them?

They have no grounds.

It's a hope that their threats and large numbers demanded will cause the party under attack to settle out of court.

Or a hope that they won't contest it at all and they will basically auto-win the court case because the judge only hears their story.

However, if they win they instantly become massive targets for Zenimax laywers.

This happens because there is no "trolling" penalty beyond judges being more skeptical of cases your company raises.

The legal system needs some kind of massive, company-ruining fine for cases where there is no factual basis for the claim and the case is designed just to scare someone into submission.

Something automatic. A process the judge can start at his or her discretion without costing the victim anything for a separate fraud case.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:54 am

She refers to it a bit on her twitter. Pete Hines replied with his support at one point.

http://twitter.com/#!/malukah

The OP didn't explain very well.

Thanks for the link, found it in there.

If everyone else is interested: Open the twitter link, CTRL + F, search for: Symbolic
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:06 am

Just thought I'd let you all know that Malukah has announced on Facebook that this whole issue is overwith; the copyright claim has gone.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:56 am

You need to go do some research before making a post like this. It can, and does happen. The status of copyright and patent law is unfortunately very messed up and there are many corporations which make vast amounts of money purely off of actions like this. Symbolic Digital Movies is one of he notorious ones. I'm not sure what the extent of what they can get away with is, but at very least they need to be prevented from taking credit from and/or making a dime off of Maluka, Jeremy Soule and Behesda's work. The good thing is that hopefuly a counter suit on the part of Bethesda and/or Maluka will end this.
For someone advising others to do their research, you don't seem very sure of yourself.

How about you post some of your research on the matter, and we can see if you're right, or just talking out of your ass. Better yet, I have access to legal databases, find me the name of the case or statute which confirms your views and I will post its contents here.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:46 am

On what grounds can they claim anything?

on the grounds that they have the money to start a legal hissy fit while most people do not have the money to defend themselves. in this instance, a court case is being used as a sort of blackmail: "we claim ownership or you go bankrupt proving that we are completely wrong to the courts." even if they have no chance and no claim, you still need money to prove it.

aint justice great?
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Post » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:22 pm

One of her latest tweets seems to imply that the issue has been resolved.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:24 am

One of her latest tweets seems to imply that the issue has been resolved.

It would seem so: https://twitter.com/#!/malukah/status/149393904754622464

"@bethblog The dispute claim on the Dragonborn vid worked. Thank you! And now, Happy Malu back to dragons..."
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:28 am

....someone give that company a sweetroll, maybe they'll go away.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:50 am

Who cares? Her cover isn't that good and that's what happens on the internet.
said the ceo about there new exstortion plans...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:23 am

One of her latest tweets seems to imply that the issue has been resolved.

Not everyone has Twitter, which is why I mentioned that I saw this news on Facebook
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:25 am

Just thought I'd let you all know that Malukah has announced on Facebook that this whole issue is overwith; the copyright claim has gone.

thank god for that, praise the lord!! hallelujah!! my world was about to end................................................................................................................ yep........................................
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:55 am

thank god for that, praise the lord!! hallelujah!! my world was about to end................................................................................................................ yep........................................

Her post on Twitter is above, somewhere. And here's her post from Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/malukah7

Update: Just logged on to YouTube and the copyright claim is gone! Yeahhhhh!!! Happy Malu is back!!! More covers!!! Leave any suggestions below :)
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