Bethesda Said NPC's would Fight over valuable stuff you drop

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:58 am

Todd Howard = Peter Molyneux
I second this.
User avatar
Amie Mccubbing
 
Posts: 3497
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:33 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:51 am

Yep. I dropped a fire dagger of some kind in one of the Inn's and two NPC's argued over it then fought - One died, the other walked away with the dagger. Needles to say, I was a little shocked.
User avatar
Jennie Skeletons
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:21 am

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM

:thumbsup:
User avatar
Ria dell
 
Posts: 3430
Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:03 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:24 am

Check and mate to mr Howard

what so he was tellin the truth on something then
User avatar
ImmaTakeYour
 
Posts: 3383
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:45 pm

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:58 pm

Todd Howard = Peter Molyneux
Err..no.

He's the project leader, things get cut and get added before/after we see the demo, things are going to be bragged about.

Peter Molyneux just blatantly lies.
User avatar
Naughty not Nice
 
Posts: 3527
Joined: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:14 am

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:37 pm

They fight about items. But i didn't have seen that in my game yet. I only was warned by a Guard because i dropped a sword in Whiterun. As i dropped a armor in an Inn a woman came and asked me if she can have it if i don't need it.

So they really react to the things you drop. But not for a iron ignot.
User avatar
BRIANNA
 
Posts: 3438
Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:51 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:22 am

proably a feature on PC, but not xbox.....damnit.
User avatar
Nick Pryce
 
Posts: 3386
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:36 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:42 am

proably a feature on PC, but not xbox.....damnit.
If it's a feature in the base game then it will be the same on all platforms.
User avatar
Ashley Clifft
 
Posts: 3468
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:56 am

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:01 am

Im guessing this was just another hype?
It is fan-fabricated and fan-fueled hype. NPCs reacting to dropped items works exactly as Todd and everyone else at Bethesda said it would.

One of the oldest published reports of the behaviors refers to them as "strange random encounters." (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_elder_scrolls_v_skyrim/b/xbox360/archive/2011/01/17/the-technology-behind-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim.aspx?PostPageIndex=2). They do happen, but only under certain conditions.
User avatar
Shannon Marie Jones
 
Posts: 3391
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:19 pm

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:29 pm

Well here I am, I drop Dragon bone right in front of people, Everybody ignores that, sometimes a person would come and return it to me, but most of the time the NPC's don't react.

Todd Howard said that the NPC's would fight over valuable stuff you drop. Didn't happen.

Only once I dropped some iron armor and a guy came up to me asking if he could use the armor I dropped, still no fights though.

Im guessing this was just another hype?

It does happen, but I've been unable to replicate it consistently.

There are some hilarious bar brawl videos on youtube though where somebody has pickpocketed everyone's clothes and then dropped it all in the middle of the room and allowed everyone to fight over it. Personally I'd rather just cast frenzy and watch the fireworks.
User avatar
Enie van Bied
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:47 pm

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:19 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM

LOL, don't you love when someone starts a call out thread only to get spanked hard? hahahhaha
User avatar
kevin ball
 
Posts: 3399
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:02 pm

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:08 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El0CVuSpXvM&feature=youtu.be
fighting over cheese xd

/thread
User avatar
Antony Holdsworth
 
Posts: 3387
Joined: Tue May 29, 2007 4:50 am

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:24 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM
User avatar
Captian Caveman
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:36 am

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:28 pm

NPCs DO react to dropped items, todd is not lieing, dropped a letter and a courier came up to me gave me it back and said i lost it, its just a tagged on feature pretty much useless 100% even if they did react the way you wanted them to, its a way to make the world feel more alive then just dropping [censored] and it stays there the whole game, so i would not QQ about it
User avatar
Samantha Mitchell
 
Posts: 3459
Joined: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:33 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:00 am

Tbh I'd rather it have not been put in then have it as it is now, having npcs break out into a fight to the death (they couldn't have just got them to yield and back off?) over an item after some broken confusing dialogue and leave it there, or dropping items for the sake of moving and having people rush up to force it back into your inventory and ask if they can have it, get excited and say they'll put it on right now thanks but never do equip it doesn't add anything, to me at least, just feels more of a nuisance and showing flaws in the game, npcs AI etc where they didn't need to. Get the basic things working first, ability for npcs to talk to each other and when they want an item pick it up and use it over the ability to start brawls etc, it's just gloss paint over a cracked damp wall.
User avatar
Daniel Lozano
 
Posts: 3452
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:42 am

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:37 pm

There are different reactions to different situations when you drop something. I once droped a dragon bone in the middel of a village and and ended fined (not immediatelly, first I get warned as when you shout in a city, but I act all proud and mighty and the guard put a fine on me and go away without even bothering trying to arrest me or make me pay it).
User avatar
Nauty
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:58 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:59 am

Only once I dropped some iron armor and a guy came up to me asking if he could use the armor I dropped, still no fights though.
Oh well:
There was this one quest (of the mage's guild I think), where I had to go through a dungeon with some other guy (I rescued him in that dungeon).
I had to drop a piece of armor, and he asked me, if he can keep it. I said yes, but he didn't even used it then.

The following 40 minutes or so (the time I needed to go through that dungeon) that NPC became the most annoying character I've ever seen in a game, asking me like every minute that same [censored] question, and no matter how I answered ("yes, keep it" or "no, you can't have it") he kept going on.

Great feature really ...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM
Oh god, this is pathetic.
Of course they implemented that feature to make the world feel more "authentic" and like it would "react" to what the player does.
But this situation (like many in Skyrim) feels so damn stupid and unrealistic, that it's just ridiculous. It does the opposite of what it's supposed to.
User avatar
Sammygirl500
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:46 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:00 am

Oh god, this is pathetic.
Of course they implemented that feature to make the world feel more "authentic" and like it would "react" to what the player does.
But this situation (like many in Skyrim) feels so damn stupid and unrealistic, that it's just ridiculous. It does the opposite of what it's supposed to.
The player's character performs an abnormal act, doing something stupid and unrealistic. He started it.
User avatar
matt white
 
Posts: 3444
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:43 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:45 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-E1lXgE_TM

I guess this explains the epic brawl that broke out in the Bee and Barb the first time I went there with a new character. Lots of brave souls were lost that night...
User avatar
Charlotte Lloyd-Jones
 
Posts: 3345
Joined: Fri Jun 30, 2006 4:53 pm

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:07 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El0CVuSpXvM&feature=youtu.be
fighting over cheese xd

Something like this happened to me in Oblivion. I was just grinding speechcraft on the Innkeeper. The Inn just north of IC with the Necromancer quest. Well I stopped using the speechcraft wheel on the her and the whole place exploded into a bar room brawl for no apparent reason.......It was hilarious. :rofl:
User avatar
tannis
 
Posts: 3446
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:21 pm

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:43 pm

It's not hype, some NPC's will fight over items. I had it happen in Riften I was having weight issues after I turned in a quest and I dropped a Candlestick in the Bee and Barb. Then Mjoll and some other guy start arguing over it, "I saw it 1st, it's mine", then they start fighting and Mjoll proceed to split him in two with her battleaxe. My Jaw hit the floor, I'm like "Really, did she just do that".
User avatar
Carolyne Bolt
 
Posts: 3401
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:56 am

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:40 am

It seems very random. I've dropped things and people ask if they can take it.
Other times they give it back to me or fight over it with someone else.
People have insulted me for "just leaving my trash around" and guards have warned me for dropping weapons.
User avatar
Camden Unglesbee
 
Posts: 3467
Joined: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:30 am

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:02 am

Last night, I had two people in Solitude fight over an enchanted diamond necklace I dropped.

One person ran upto me a week ago and asked if they could keep an item I dropped.

It does happen.

I would ask you this "Who seriously wants a bone?".

Todd Howard = Peter Molyneux

I love when people post garbage like this.

Just reassures me why developers ignore forums.

Thank you. Thank you for reminding me.
User avatar
Ally Chimienti
 
Posts: 3409
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:53 am

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:09 pm

I was standing near the forge in Riften transmuting iron ore to silver and dropping each piece as I made it. After dropping five or six pieces, a woman stopped and told me I dropped something. A crowd gathered around and she asked if she could have the items I had dropped. I stepped back to see if she would take it and when she reached down for it the others jumped on her and stabbed her to death.

The body fell at my feet just as a guard walked by "Whoa, whoa, whoa! What happened here?" Erm, nothing occifer :angel:

I've since tried to replicate the brawl with dropped gemstones, Dwarven weapons and glass armor but it hasn't happened again.
User avatar
Amanda Leis
 
Posts: 3518
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:57 am

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:41 am

I did a few experiments a couple of days ago. In Riften's market, then in the Ragged Flagon, I dropped a pair of Dragonscale boots (Legendary). No one did a thing. The boots are worth a lot of coin, right?

Same thing in Whiterun. Got no reaction. Guess I'll try the goat cheese then.
User avatar
xx_Jess_xx
 
Posts: 3371
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:01 pm

PreviousNext

Return to V - Skyrim