I think Windhelm and Markarth look pretty big but like someone said one all stairs.and the other all alleys I like the way Windhelm looks tho.

you guys are funny! I walk up all these stairs in Markarth, can hardly breathe, and bam I get led to a house. ONE HOUSE.
I wasn't condemning the game, it just seems small to me. and I really hate Windhelm, Always gray. And that stupid ugly house with the icicles the minute I walk in there, to my right. UGGGH.
I love the game, it's just these "cities" aren't cities to me.

Why are people bringing up scale when the examples were all from previous TES titles which should have same/very similar scale. They tried to mask the small cities by calling the “Holds”, but that implies that there is a ton of people living in rural communities outside the “Hold” yet there aren’t. Vivec City alone can probably swallow up most of the Skyrim cities.

VIVEC was a NIGHTMARE...

why?
I could already levitate when I got to it, I would hate it if I had to walk from Canton to Canton. I am currently enjoying it in Morroblivion and no problems finding my way around.

Yeah, proportions for cities are way off. I expect cities to be livelier than they are in Skyrim too, There are more guards than actual residents, it seems like.

I was the same as your avatar when I found out that biggest towns don't get larger than Solitude, Markarth and the likes.

I'm hoping we'll get some bigger cities in an Expansion.

The answer is easy console limit, how http://www.gamesas.com/user/574354-patti-345/ said we pray for good dlc.

You don't need twenty cells of repetative crap. In a non-open world game they could give you a huge background painting to give the impression of a full sized city. But that simply isn't possible in an open world.
If you can't handle the concept of representive population stop playing open world games.

They could just add a whole bunch of randomly generated buildings and NPCs seeing as they weren't all that deep in SKyrim anyway.

Oh yes as if there aren't enough framerate and lag issues, lets at a dozen random citizens.

the imperial city was stupid, i like every single city in skyrim better than the imperial city, it wasn't that big anyway.

They don't have to be in the same cell, the IC was in seperate districts.

Go To Whiterun, there are 70 or so NPC's there.

Thanks for using Komodo Airlines to completely miss the point!

I was just replying to one of your wants...

The Cities and Guilds (Except the Thieves Guild) are my biggest complaints. I would have gladly welcomed large but semgmented cities (Mournhold, Imperial City) over the 20-building villages they call cities, with over half the population consisting of Guards that have knee injuries.

The world Settlements is one aspect I can say Oblivion was tangibally better than Skyrim. Though artisitically the cities of Skyrim are great, unique and interesting, it's hard to suspend disbelief when a "Major Settlement" can be sprinted across in 6 seconds. I much prefer to spend my time in the small towns like Morthal, Riverwood and Dragon's Bridge. At least they don't try (And fail) to trick you into thinking they're massive.

They could have made Winterhold epic, but instead they decided to cop out and destroy it.

A little variety never hurts. Since you spend most of your time outside cities anyway, it'd be nice with a really large city with some purely urban-based activities, for a change. I mean, the quests you get in the cities are almost ALWAYS about retrieving this and that from the ruin in some mountain.

I think the 5 "great" cities are just fine. Their size is ok, and there simply is no city in Skrim that has the same size as the Imperial City. I also like, that those 5 cities all have a different character to it and seem unique. The 8 smaller cities in Oblivion seemed much more interchangable to me. However, 5 great cities cities are too few for my taste. The 4 smaller cities are way too small and except Winterhold lack of character. I'm disappointed by those. It would have been great if those would have similar size and uniqueness as the 5 great ones. Then I would have been completely satisfied. That's why I would love a Rebuilding Winterhold questline as an expansion. For starters...

I'm not too bothered. The cities, even though small, have been done well as they are. The city of Markarth, which I have chosen to live in, is my favourite but then i haven't even been inside the city which Ulfric owns (Windhelm?). Just download mods or something

Given Skyrim's climate and history, it would be less likely to house a large city imo.

Skyrim's cities are small, but at least they have people in them. Actual, moving, talking people, with houses, and doors that actually led somewhere.

yep the cities have poor quality and poor quantity

after some adventuring i find myself wanting to settle in the city for a while, butonce i get there i get bored straight away as there is nothing to do in them.

tho hopefully with the Ck mods will fix that.
all im left to do is goto the local Inn and get my character blotto.