Three items? I've found the "Strange Amulet + 2 Journals". What's the third one?
And what do you consider regarding the "Examine The Crime Scene" glitch?

One amulet and 2 Butchers journals = 3 items.

I see. So the option to request Jorleif's assistance will appear after this?

yes, when you have these, go and see him and he will direct you as to where to go next.

Be sure to pick up those fliers too - "Beware the Butcher" or something like that.

The questline is full of glitches, and you can end up with the strange amulet stuck in your inventory and miss out on a nice reward. To avoid that, try the following:

Once you have the flier, plus the journals and strange amulet, find and talk to Viola.
Then talk to Calixto and sell the strange amulet.
Enter the keep and talk to Wuufred (spelling?) the Unliving. Do -not- talk to Jorleif yet. e: He's usually found upstairs in the keep.
Do as Wuufred say, find and kill the killer, get the upgraded amulet and then talk to Jorleif.

Good advice. Dont talk to Viola tho until you have completed the 'examine the crime scene' bit, or you could end up in a neverending loop. i.e. dont talk to her if youve only found one item.

Thank you so much for your advice. I'll try that right now and keep you posted in this forum.


That's my main problem chap, I can't seem to be able to complete the "Examine The Crime Scene". I really have tried everything I can think of. Do you have any suggestions regards to that?

You can skip the crime scene part by finding all the clues in Hjerim and continuing from there. You probably broke the first part of the quest by waiting for too long.

I know but I like to have everything completed nice and neat. I fear you're right.

I still have a save where I haven't entered "Hjerim" and the blood trail still shows but nothing before that where I can continue the quest from the start point. Any ideas?

The examine crime scene part is tricky to spot what you need to do to be honest, but when I reloaded and got to the scene again I realised that something the guard says helps, I missed it the first time.

As I have mentioned several times the body is not there for me to trail the blood no more therefore I'm trying to but it doesn't seem to work chap.

Do you have the amulet?!
Do you have two journals?!
Do you have a flier?!

I have two saves. One featuring me having entered Hjerim and having obtained the three items (Amulet + Journals + Flyers) but the blood trail disappeared and "Examine The Crime Scene" objective not completed. And I have another save where I haven't entered Hjerim and the blood trail is still showing but "Examine The Crime Scene" objective still not showing as completed with the victim's body remaining in "Hall of the Dead".

And you 'investigated' everythng in the house that you could i.e. the pots, the bed, the wardrobes etc? I remember when I did it I had to get rid of all the 'investigate' tags on the crap around the house.

Everything. Double checked as well.

Well?

Jesus I've been on this quest for over 6 hours and still no help? I want a refund Bethesda!

Wow theres no need to be rude, guy, i've spent ages just trying to get out of you where exactly you are in the quest - I have things to be doing myself, you know. I give up. Good luck.

Did you sell the amulet to Calixto?

I done exactly as "Fleapants" mentioned on page two. I gave up on the quest and just continued without fishing it 100% (Examine The Crime Scene & Get Assistance From Jorleif - "Not Done").
Either way, feel free to post related issues regards to this quest so long as it's open.

Thanks everyone for your help. May Talos watch over you.