Bows In 1.6 : V

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:19 pm

Is it just me or did they totaly Nerf bows in 1.6? my daedric long bow went down to 154 damage from 224 without arrows. :swear:

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:18 am

Revert back to 1.5 and find out. If it goes back up then you have your answer.

If they did nerf them, then it may be in preparation to the damage values of crossbows. It would be kinda silly for a similar type crossbow to be outclassed by its equivilant bow.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:47 pm

Supposedly the bows were calculating damage wrong and this update "fixed" it. I haven't updated yet on my xbox and my daedric bow is at around 700 damage, I'm sure it'll be around 500 (where it should be) after I do.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:02 am

Revert back to 1.5 and find out. If it goes back up then you have your answer.

If they did nerf them, then it may be in preparation to the damage values of crossbows. It would be kinda silly for a similar type crossbow to be outclassed by its equivilant bow.

Im on the 360 it would be imposible to revert

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:06 am

Crossbows are coming in bro so get ready to shelf that bow of yours.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:58 am

Crossbows are coming in bro so get ready to shelf that bow of yours. :smile:

Nah im a bow man myself. and we still dont know the extent of how many types of crossbows

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:10 pm

Wow.. it did go down, my Nightingale bow is now at 67 damage without arrows. It used to be about 100.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:06 pm

1.5 introduced a bug involving calculating bow damage, making archery overpowered.

The base damage of bows increases when you equip better quality arrows, so with a 24 damage bow and daedric 24 damage arrows you end up with 80-90 damage rather than the 48 it should be.

I'm glad they fixed it.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:38 pm

Im on the 360 it would be imposible to revert

Weird, they made the patch official and didnt remove the beta forum.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:37 pm

1.5 introduced a bug involving calculating bow damage, making archery overpowered.

The base damage of bows increases when you equip better quality arrows, so with a 24 damage bow and daedric 24 damage arrows you end up with 80-90 damage rather than the 48 it should be.

I'm glad they fixed it.

yeah I noticed that but a decrease of 70-80 damage cannot be only contributed to a max decrease of 24 damage. and im comparing the damages without arrows

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:21 pm

yeah I noticed that but a decrease of 70-80 damage cannot be only contributed to a max decrease of 24 damage. and im comparing the damages without arrows

It's the bows damage that changed when you equipped arrows, the better the arrows the higher the increase.

For example a hunting bow that has 10 damage, when ebony arrows were equipped the overall damage is 45+ rather than the 30 it should be, the arrows give the right amount of damage but the bows damage increased.

You sure the bow damage without arrows changed?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:29 pm

It's the bows damage that changed when you equipped arrows, the better the arrows the higher the increase.

For example a hunting bow that has 10 damage, when ebony arrows were equipped the overall damage is 45+ rather than the 30 it should be, the arrows give the right amount of damage but the bows damage increased.

You sure the bow damage without arrows changed?

Yes im sure and ebony arrows dont have a damage of 30 only 20. and now that i think of it yesterday i did diplomatic imunity and when i reequipted daedric arrows it only increased my bow damage by 24

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:37 pm

Any confirmation of it affecting the Bound Bow?

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:06 am

Yes im sure and ebony arrows dont have a damage of 30 only 20. and now that i think of it yesterday i did diplomatic imunity and when i reequipted daedric arrows it only increased my bow damage by 24

20+10=30 the overall damage should be 30, instead it was 25+20=45 (ish) as the bows damage increased.

The bug I described was what was patched, not sure what you're experiencing.

Any confirmation of it affecting the Bound Bow?

Yes, before you would get a large boost of bow damage as you're using daedric arrows (i.e. much higher than +24). Now it's fixed.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:55 pm

Great, now I don't feel bad for sneaking, since it was so OP before.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:48 pm

20+10=30 the overall damage should be 30, instead it was 25+20=45 (ish) as the bows damage increased.

The bug I described was what was patched, not sure what you're experiencing.

Yes, before you would get a large boost of bow damage as you're using daedric arrows (i.e. much higher than +24). Now it's fixed.

All they said was

Fixed issue where bow damage was being calculated incorrectly
never mentioned what was being calculated incorrectly. so maybe you were exeriencing something different?http://www.gamesas.com/user/803524-drajman/ posted he has same issue as me

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:13 pm

Great, now I don't feel bad for sneaking, since it was so OP before.

Not on Master sir, not on Master

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:41 pm

Any confirmation of it affecting the Bound Bow?

I dont see why it has daedric base damage

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:09 pm

Ah, I'm on Expert.

Was thinking about bumping it up to Master.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:52 pm

Ah, I'm on Expert.

Was thinking about bumping it up to Master.

lower level enemies are still easy but the level 50ish ones take 4-7 sneak attack bow hits at arround 200x3 damage which isnt easy cause they have a habit of noticing they are being filled with arrows.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:20 pm

It's easy to revert. Go on your hard-drive and reset cache. Deletes all updates.

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:07 am

Im on the 360 it would be imposible to revert

Go to your memory delete the patch and find out. That means redownloading it though

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:57 pm

I have a maxed out daedric bow that went from 115 to 72 :/

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:17 pm

Go to your memory delete the patch and find out. That means redownloading it though

all the patches are one data meaning if i delete it i delete all patches

» Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:54 am

Nah im a bow man myself. and we still dont know the extent of how many types of crossbows

Word is that there will only be one crossbow usable by the player, and that the one and only way to get one is by siding with the Dawnguard. This was supposedly confirmed by an online article, but it sounds a little phony to me, as there is no direct quote from the developers in the article saying that this was confirmed, only that it's according to some Q&A somewhere. :facepalm: