Are electronic ones better for you? I mean you are still inhaling water vapor which isn't good for your lungs (I don't think you could drown yourself though), but I haven't really seen anything about the electronic cigarettes.

We've got 'em here. No-one that know has even cut down on smoking as a result. In fact, I think the only people affected are non-smokers, who just get grossed out.

I think all this is going to do is desensitize smokers even further to the negative effects. I dunno if that's already been said, I only skim-read the first page of comments.

I am pretty doubtful it's going to do any good. There isn't much you can do to prevent smoking. It's an individual choice and I think the focus should be on protecting non-smokers, such as making public areas smoke free, and having designated smoking areas.

I have to admit that thought has crossed my mind throughout the discussion but I didn't want to actually say it...because I think you're actually pretty cool. I know an ex smoker like that, but she's gotten used to me, and I smoke outside a lot. :biggrin:

I'm no doctor, but I don't think water vapor is unhealthy. When I was growing up and got sick, I remember my mother would get out the humidifier and put it in my room with me. I can't exactly remember why she did it, but she seemed to think that it would help somehow.

EDIT: @ Aquan:

Sorry if I've come across a a bit of an ass in this thread, but when it comes to smoking I tend to take a hard stance. (I grew up around smokers, and smoked my first cigarette by the time I was 6)

When they came out with those labels here, I had fun collecting the whole set.

My favourite is the "Your smoking harms your unborn baby".
Oh, cool, I'm not pregnant, so I'll just get some of those rather than the lung cancer cigarettes.


The electronic ones aren't bad for you, same goes for if you were using a vapouriser for regular tobacco (or other such smoking product). They produce comparatively less vapour than if you were say, standing in some mist. They don't combust, so you only get things that have a boiling point of something like 150C

true. But I was kind of connecting if you got too much water in your lungs then you'll drown, but I am pretty sure that an electronic cigarette can't produce that much water. Just wondering is all.

It might be killing your....y'know.....swimmers. If you get what I'm saying.

For the most part, it's all the nicotine, but less puffs, decent to bad taste, and hardly any ick from real cigs. Also, you're not inhaling smoke.

They've had those here forever, and honestly, they don't seem to work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji5tdXrMDtk

It's true, you just swap for the best side effects.

Saw the proposed pics a few months ago. They aren't graphic enough, in my opinion. They should show a black diseased cancerous lung, people with throat cancer, and the like. Not an actor pretending to be dead in a coffin.

This is a pretty bad idea.
Also, I haven't smoked for over 7 months.

Some of the cigs that I sell at work have large pictures of rotted teeth on them. Not very pretty. But people still buy 'em.

I'd like to imagine that the utter unattractiveness of smoking coupled with the obvious health effects would be enough to dissuade people from doing it, but I often underestimate the amount of stupidity in the world today.

not going to happen. too graphic, so it will turn away too many customers.

They've been putting shock images on cigarette packets for years around here. I haven't seen the statistics, but I haven't noticed any decrease in smoking amongst the people I know and places I've been.

They've decided to also change to "plain packaging" recently, meaning the only decoration they'll have is the anti-smoking message.

This leads me to wonder; do they really think people buy cigarettes for the pretty pictures on the cover?

I quit smoking for over a year, and I noticed a faint smell, even before I started smoking I didn't really notice too much. We're forced to go outside already and it svcks in -30 degree weather, so just let us enjoy smoking while it really doesn't affect you at all. It's a faint smell for a few seconds, its not like you're pinned up against a wall being forced to inhale it.

Second hand smoke nearly always makes me gag. I find it extremely overpowering.

Thats fair enough... some smokers have terrible cigarettiquete. I just found it wasn't that bad smelling it for like .5 seconds while walking inside. I guess I can't really say though because I so rarely smoke during the day, and if I do its at my own house.

ya and the dead guy looks more like a vampire anyway.



doesn't everyone?

I just remembered one case of a shocking picture making someone stop smoking. I have two older brothers and one younger brother and mom smoked while carrying me and my older brothers, but when she was with my little brother she saw a picture at a hospital depicting how it can affect the baby when a smoker smokes and she stopped smoking while she was with my little brother.

She started again later after giving birth to him (guess she really did get affected by the picture and was just thinking of him but not herself) and has tried a few times to quit, as it stands she′s trying to quit and has been without a cigarette for nearly a year now. But that is unrelated, the point is that sometimes such pictures can affect smokers.

Waste of time and money. People who are old enough to buy cigarettes know what they do, and don't care -- much ado about nothing akin to comparing smoking pot to breaking an egg with a frying pan. There's already U.S. laws that ban public smoking in certain areas, so no point in pushing the issue further. This to me is just big brother testing it's limits to see how far it can go.

Except trying to get stoners attention by showing them food just seems to be kind of futile to me.

Except if someone has the urge to go for an Egg McMuffin.