Unless I am mistaken the Brotherhood of Steel in this game won't be the "good guys" of Fallout 3 but more like BoS in the others, which is to say more like the outcasts. I think a few people who played Fallout 3 are going to end up getting killed by surprise. Anyone plannin on joining up with them if possible?

Won't surprise me. I've actually wanted the West Coast Brotherhood to be the Brotherhood that shows up.

First time around I'll probably go with the good guys and second character I'll probably go bad. I always switch it up.

I'd consider joining them if it was a choice, although I'm pretty sure they only confirmed three factions that you can join so far and those might be the only 3, so I doubt it will be a choice.

I never saw anything wrong with the Outcast BoS. I liked their philosophy better anyways.

I'd definitely join up with them if it were an option, because you know Obsidian would pack a bunch of good stuff into their quest line.

i hope Brotherhood of Steel are not in it
all the fallouts seem to be based around the Brotherhood of Steel or the Enclave
the outcasts would be interesting
but it would be nice to see something new
a new group with power armour

As long as I got an option to kill the B.O.S I'm good.

If they have a questline, I'll smile and nod do their errands. Get what I can from them and then pull a gun on their backs, and get some tech to sell.

:flamethrower::flamed:

Killing everyone is a option in this game.

you can't kill one of the 2600 characters

On the west coast, the BoS are equivalent to the east coast's Outcasts.

Yes yes... i know... but we don't talk about that guy.

Edit: and it is 2200 characters.

i was only 400 off

We already know the Brotherhood of Steel is in the game, but you might find it comforting to know that this time around, it sounds like they won't play that major a role.

I won't be at all surprised if the Brotherhood of Steel isn't like in Fallout 3, though, in fact, I'd be surprised if they were, because this is the west coast Brotherhood we're dealing with, not the eastern detacment under Elder Lyons' command, and he was the one who decided to deviate from the original mission of collecting technology in favor of something that has a more immediate benefit on the average people of the wasteland, and the Outcasts show that even on the east coast, there are those who don't approve of this decision, the fact that the eastern Brotherhood has evidently lost contact with the rest of the Brotherhood back west also indicates that they don't like the decision either. Only people who only played Fallout 3 and assume that the entire Brotherhood is like in the Capital Wasteland would be surprised if the one in New Vegas wasn't, and only if they didn't pay attention to what was said in the game, because it's not like the game doesn't acknowledge that the Brotherhood in it has deviated from its original mission, even though you might think it doesn't from all the crying about it.

Regardless, though, I doubt we'll be able to join the Brotherhood, at least not as an alternative to Ceasar's Legion or the NCR, we can probably do some quests for them, but I don't think they'll play such a major role in the game. But regardless, if you can join them, I guess I'd try it once, at least, to see what it's like, if I liked the quests, than I might do it again, and if I didn't, well I would never have known thatr without trying.



We know there's one unkillable character, but we don't know who it is, and I doubt it's someone in the Brotherhood. I suspect it's someone Obsidian really has a reason to not want us to kill, why? We'll see, but there must be something special about that character, and I find it hard to imagine that he'd be in the Brotherhood of Steel.

when they mean 2200 characters do they mean characters in quests or does that include random un-unique/unnamed NPCs

They said kids still aren't kill-able. Think it's the one and only kid in Nevada?

Kids don't count as people. Their mindless and have no souls. So no I doubt its a kid, their in a different category imo.

Does it count as "unkillable" if you never get the opportunity to kill it? In the sense that you never get the chance to shoot at it?
Like in Bioshock where people talk to you through windows that cant be broken.

I thought the one essential character actually becomes kill-able after a certain point in the main quest. I think i read that somewhere or heard a dev mention that but i could be mistaken.

:laugh:

I thought it was only ginger kids that don't have souls.

I wouldn't mind the BOS making an appearance (someone to farm power armour from), but I doubt we'll be able to join them.

Based on what I've read in numerous previews, the bos are basically going to be the ncr's beaten lap-dog. They lost an important battle to the ncr, and they will be (at least the New Vegas branch) working for the local ncr.

There are probably achievements for playing as Good and Bad so I'll probably do both since I am a total achievement [censored].

it would interesting if the west coast Brotherhood was the enemy as the want all technology at any cost like the enclave
and they shot you in the head for your parcel
but as they are not in it much thats not the case

The Enclave doesn't want all the technology at any cost, they want the wasteland to be pure at any cost... or something.

I think BoS are more like neutrals. They should not be goodies like BoS in FO3 and not like [censored]s like the Outcasts. They should be like that Outcast leader in Operation:Anchorage, or like http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cabbot (the first BoS you meet in FO1) and not go tell you to bang rocks together. They should be determined, diciplined, militaristic, et cetera... At first glance, the eastern BoS looked like that but as soon as you were getting to know them they became a bit silly.

I wouldn't say that the fallout 3 BoS was all that nice. They had there flaws as well as the outcast do. I mean the BoS shoots ghouls on site for instance. Did everyone forget that? No I won't join them. I didn't like either but in a world like this you have to go with the greater good. Of cource al these fallout games seem to incoporate a morale gray area now. . .