nice work, this helps me alot!
has anyone found out if it is possible to place books into the bookshelf by default yet? i figured that it would be something like "linkref the book in the bookshelfcontainermenu", but what keyword should i use? or is my approach already plain wrong?

Boon, have you put all your books on both bookshelves yet?

I'm going crazy again. No kidding.

After I put and connected all the books on the upper shelf last night everything was working perfectly. It still does today. I thought I would finish my project and set up all the books on the lower shelf. That's when things stopped working, yet again!

First I generated brand new container and copied both triggers from the upper shelf since they were working right. Upon trying to connect the books I realized that the new triggers for the bottom shelf were not working. I deleted both triggers and copied the ones that were already in another bookcase in the house, just like last night. Things were still not working.

I finally deleted everything and started all over again. I copied container, click trigger and trigger from another bookshelf in the house. When I added the first book everything seemed to be working fine. Then I started adding additional books. No matter how many books I add, when I activate the bookshelf in game it only lets me put one book. I checked and rechecked the set up and everything is where is suppose to be. I'm using exactly the same method I was using last night to set up the upper shelf which is still working beautifully... I'm at a loss... Is this whole thing bugged?

You should be able to add a book to the container. Just double click on the Container to bring up the menu, go to Edit base and you can add to it just like any old container.


No I haven't tried yet, I will now and see if I can add some books to see what happens. It should work just like the top.

EDIT:
You did use the keyword BookShelfTrigger02 when connecting the ShelfTrigger and Container right? I think you have to if you're using the same shelf structure.

EDIT2:
I connected everything just like in my steps moni and it's working fine for me. I was able to put 5 books on it with no problems. It could be that Trigger02 keyword thing.

I used both Trigger01 and Trigger02, doesn't matter which one I use things don't work properly. Right now I'm stuck with the following issue. I can put the books on the shelf with no problem. I can also pick them up with Activate Bookshelf. However, when I come to the shelf and pick out individual title to read, and then decide to Take It it shows that book is dissapearing from the bookshelf but in fact it is not. I have one copy in my inventory and another one remains on the bookshelf, so now I have 2 copies of the same book.. Weird..

Have you tried reading one of your books from the shelf and then taking it via Take It button?

I have tried just about everything.. I've deleted the whole set up and started all over again.. I copied both triggers and container... All the references are set up identical to the original bookshelf. The bookshelf on the top works perfectly while the one of the bottom doesn't...

I finally have full functioning bookcase.. both upper and lower level. My fix came from the most unusual place. I never got the triggers to work properly again, no matter what I did. My last desperate attempt involved copying the entire upper shelf set up using Ctrl to select everything at once. All 18 books, the click trigger, the trigger and the container (have to be very careful to get it all). When I copied all the references copied with it.. and ... everything now works problem free.

What the problem was with the bottom shelf.. I will never know. From now on though, I'll just copy the entire bookcase set up and paste it into the new spot. When pasting to another cell I would have to check to see what and if any cell specific data pasted as well... That's for another day though.. Right now I don't even want to think of another bookcase..

Haha wow yeah none of that happened to me. I wonder what was up with that? To make my second book shelf I dragged out a new Container, copy pasted both Triggers and duplicated the DefaultBooks from the top book shelf..and then connected them all and they all worked.

Seems like yours just went into glitch mode lol. Also no I haven't tried reading from the bookshelf yet, I'll give that a try tomorrow when I play.

I've been using the copy/pasting method for the last few days or so and it's worked great till now. Not sure if the CK is bugged or what but now
the bookshelf that I paste won't work if i rotate it 180 degrees. It's odd. Only when facing a certain direction it just stopped working for me.

What's messed up is, I'd been doing just that, copy/paste rotate drag etc.. and all was working fine. Today i start doing that, some work, some don't.
I'm completely at a loss as to why something like this glitch when it had been working fine till now. (shrugs)

Restarting my pc, I'll see if that fixes it.

-Mush-

Kia Ora

I got my bookcase's and sword mount to work by copying them, it's a good idea to use CTRL and hit M to hde markers so you know you have got all the underlying stuff
the hit M again to get whats left, I found with bookshelves U had to have the Collision Markers in the right place or the books fall over or out

@Mush23 Try getting a new one and mak sure that you don't miss ANY parts, I noticed when doing that sometime it lost bits, the first one I did
didn't work, the second lot did cause I hit M at times to make sure I did miss anything, I used the lock to rotate in 45 degree lots and even leaving a
copy in the void outside to work off so I knew it was complete (you can move the one in the void as the last one to clean up)

Yeah, I have several of various sizes in 'the void'. Makes it so much easier. I found out it's just 1 type of bookcase doing it. The tall bookshelves that hold 11 books on each shelf was causing me issues. When i tested it with a single shelf copy/paste, it worked fine regardless of the rotation. (shrugs) At least i now have some sort of workaround.

On another note, what is with some weapons on the racks not displaying properly?
eg. the greatswords on the shield racks are up above the shield and they point up. They also stand on their hilts when used in
the normal weapon rack. Maces/Staffs/and war axes are all upside down. (Shrugs)

-Mush-

Mush my greatsword used to do that thing on the weapon rack, but I fixed it somehow and it doesn't anymore. I don't know what did it unfortunately lol. If it was because I added an endcap, or if it was because I put the keywords in the right way this time around. Also, I've always had my mace go in upside down, even in vanilla, I'm pretty sure at least.

Kia Ora

I managed to get everything working ok but I get a CTD when I try to leave the cell, but I can't tell what doing it, I'd have to take out one set at a time.
For example take out manniquins and try leave the cell, then sheild mounts etc.

I also remember back when beth did some patching that changed player house's or towns I got crash's for quite a while and there was a time I could
not go to Windhlem or enter my player home in Whitrun, after a while (i'm guess the game recycle days) it cane right I have no idea if thats something to
do with this.

Also the ting I see is that most of the orginal items in question are connected to an X marker thing with a box/block over it, the copies I made are not, I was thinking that
had something to do with the buying of house upgrades when the player buys and upgrades their home

Why you do this so complicated?

Place a shelf in the Room of your Choice
Place a PlayerBookShelfContainer behind the Top Board or above it.
Place the DefaultBookShelfBookMarker in the count of your choice (max possible is 18 - Script Limit) on the Top Board
Link Ref The PlayerBookShelfContainer from the LinkedRef Tab with the First BookMarker and select as Keyword BookShelfBook01.
Do that with each book you have placed and change the number to 02,03 for each subsequent book you have placed.
Mark the Shelf and click on the T Button of the Editor to create a new TriggerBox. Selec PlayerBookShelfTrigger from the List and hit OK.
Now Scale this Triggerbox with the Arrows to the Size of the Bookrow you have placed. Type R to disable Scale Mod.
Link Ref PlayerBookShelfContainer with no Keyword from the PlayerBookShelfTrigger menu.
Link Ref PlayerBookShelfTrigger with BookShelfTrigger01 keyword from the PlayerBookShelfContainer LinkedRef Tab
Hit the T Button again and create a PlayerBookShelfClickTrigger.
Scale it a bit smaller as the Board size of the Shelf is. Pull it a little bit out. Type R and make a Double Klick on the Trigger Box. Go to the Primitive TAB and set "Player Activation".
Link Ref PlayerBookShelfContainer with BookShelfContainer keyword from PlayerBookShelfClickTrigger LinkedRef Tab.
Confirm with OK. Thats it.

Sry for my english, but i'm from Austria

Edit

I have made a Videotut. This works without a Problem in my own Housemod.
I never duplicate / Copy placed Vanilla Objects, cause this makes more Problems as its saves Worksteps....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkb19I2Gg2I&feature=player_embedded

Strange, I can't seem to get my mannequins or bookshelves to work, but my weapon racks are fine.

I have set up my mannequins and bookshelves exactly as I have read, but when I go to them in-game they will not activate (the 'Activate