Hey, gamesas, how about this:

1. You let Obsidian develop Fallout games from now on

and

2. You never, ever, EVER distribute your games through Steam or make them Steam-enabled

and I, Alexander Strahan, will:

1. BUY YOUR GAMES.

Howzat? Huh? Sounds pretty damn fair to me. Listen, I know you have marketing guys in suits telling you otherwise, but there's a REASON Steam is referred to as "Steam-ing pile of ..." You can fill in the blank, we're all advlts here.

So hey. How about you DON'T listen to marketing suits who partied their way through Boston University School of Management (believe me, I went to BU, SMG graduates boozed and doped more than anyone else and as a result have fewer viable braincells than most legally competent human beings on this planet), and listen to the payin' clientele? I mean, who knows, right? It might just work in your favor.

Just sayin'.

I'll make a counter proposal.

1. You let Obsidian develop whatever it feels like.

2. You continue distributing games through Steam.

and I, Tale, will:

1. BUY YOUR GAMES.

I don't know, in my opinion, ever since Obsidian developed Fallout, I've been missing the whole surprise effect like I'd experienced in Fallout 3.

I really think Obsidian could have put a lot more effort into this if they'd put more time into it, too bad the deadline was too soon.

Oh no, what an evil thing Steam is. How dare Valve distribute games easily and effeciently, and give huge, frequent sales!

How about this: You team up with Obsidian and create the ultimate story-driven sandbox game.

I don't mind STEAM, and I liked Fallout 3... probably more than F:NV, on balance.

So, the marketing strategy is looking increasingly less viable...

Most of everyone that worked on New Vegas worked on the original games.

Steam is the devil and is a piece of trash!

I mean, not once have I had issues with it, it works flawlessly! How dare Valve make a program that works perfectly!

And have you seen their sales! How dare they have crazy, cheap sales! I mean, I bought Deus Ex: GOTY for $2.50, Oblivion GOTY Deluxe for $9, HL for $2, BioShock for $5, and Overlord for $2! Simply preposterous!

Well I think ....
Oh, errr ... this is a PC type conversation.
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I thought Obsidian was working on it?

Black Isle is Obsidian.

Everyone that worked on FO1/2 moved to Obsidian when they were shut down. (Most of everyone)

I'm sure Bethesda is just tripping over themselves to take your offer, I mean whats losing access to what is possibly now the worlds largest PC game retailer when they have your single sale. I mean the Devs are going to have to eat plain cardboard instead of the fancy corrogated stuff we're feeding them now, but heck, a sales a sale.

I agree, lets listen to the customers, such as those who bought the game direct on steam.

Hey, gamesas, how about this:

1. You stop reading the forums and get back to working on TES V.

and

2. You never, ever, EVER release another game too early.

and I, ahb, will:

1. BUY YOUR GAMES. (And the DLC, even horse armor).

Concerning #1:
I don't mind which studio develops the game. As long as it's good.

Now, personally I found it much more fun to explore in FO3, but the main quest in FO:NV was much more interesting.
However, the exploring is very important to me - in FO3 every skeleton had a story to it, everything felt 'alive' and 'real' (as far as a game's concerned). I missed that immensely in FONV.
Then again, while FO:NV's karma was pointless and broken, the reputation system and damage treshold were actually quite good.

Conclusion: both FO3 and FO:NV had their strengths and weak spots, so a mix would be ideal.

Concerning #2:
I love steam. It allows me to play whatever I want, whenever I want, wherever I want. Accidentally damaged the disk? No problem. I'll just download the game trough steam at 2MB/s or more.
Patches? Taken care of - but i can disable them if i'd want to. Achievements are also easily visible and comparable on the Steam Community pages.

However, I understand that some people don't like having to sign up for yet another service. Therefore, I guess Steam should be optional.
I myself however gladly purchase Steam-enabled games.

you know all of our numbers came from people who were constantly high

@ahb
RE #2

In todays day and age,with 79076707656789865456987654349876543 pc variations...theres gonna be bugs for some people.
But yea...even the console versions were buggy..*sigh*

Just remeber if they release tesv when its done and perfect...our grandchildren will be playing it.Or it wont be on PC at all.Need to be realistic here.

:rofl:

how bout this, don't listen to the OP for a single second, do the opposite of everything he says, but STILL make awesome games? deal?

But then why do a majority of the people complain that Obsidian ruined the game?

Caouse Obsidian in my state always ruine the game

Seems they can do nice job when it comes to sequel

What's your point? Is that supposed to mean I should like the game over Fallout 3 just because the original developers worked on it? If this is the original developers' work, then Bethesda is far more deserving of handling the series, in my opinion. What does it matter if the original developers worked on it?

Cause they want "exploration" or "godlike characters, or "unbuggy messes."

I understand the third one but not one and two.

You forgot play after the end

Nope, he was replying to my question about who Obsidian was. There isn't a reason why you should like New Vegas just because the remnants of Black Isle. worked on it, you just like it or you don't. It's really that simple.

My thoughts exactly. As I've lost or damaged games before, it's nice not having to buy the same product twice. Steam is fine in my book.