A Detailed Minute by Minute Dissection of the Dawnguard Trai

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:35 am

Looks good but vampires aren't what i would expect. (dwarves and snow elves) also no more dlc like shivering ilses
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Jade MacSpade
 
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:34 pm

He's just putting emphasis on the 'd' of returned, "You have returned, my daughter". He says that because the character he's talking to there is female.
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Sunnii Bebiieh
 
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:05 pm

it is molag bals, play the house of horrors quest and look at the altar
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:48 pm

According to the Lore forum, it actually looks more closely related to Namira than Molag Bal, even though Molag supposedly created them.
But that's completely wrong, it looks identical to the Molag Bal shrine that you find in the base game, just with a fountain (ignoring the obvious reasons why it would a shrine to Molag Bal and not Namira). If that is what they're saying (and I find that hard to believe), they've gotten a bit confused.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:54 pm

According to the Lore forum, it actually looks more closely related to Namira than Molag Bal, even though Molag supposedly created them.

And for OP, the creature @00:57 is a Karstaag, a giant from Solstiem/Skyrim. (You kill one in Bloodmoon, if you recall.)

Edit: Also, it is theorized that the place is actually a realm, either Namira's or Coldharbour (Molag Bal's)

It looks closer to Molag Bal's shrine in Markarth than Namira's shrine in my opinion.

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/the-elder-scrolls-5-skyrim/thumb/4/41/Molag_bal_altar.bmp/468px-Molag_bal_altar.bmp.png

Not the similar shape in the head.

This is Namira's altar:

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/images/960801-1328359333.jpg

Doesn't look the same.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:13 pm

He's just putting emphasis on the 'd' of returned, "You have returned, my daughter". He says that because the character he's talking to there is female.

After about 10 times of listening to it, i can tell you he did not say that.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:28 pm

After about 10 times of listening to it, i can tell you he did not say that.
He did. "You have returned my daughter". That's exactly what he says (might be "returned, my daughter" with a comma, but I can't be sure). Think about it - nobody else hears "to" in his monologue, what are the chances that we're all wrong and you're right?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:46 pm

Pretty sure there's a "to" in there. "You have returned to my daughter." Not sure what that means, though.
I think 'my daughter' is his castle.
Edit: Changed my mind, he doesn't say to. Imma say you save his daughter from baby-snatchin' Falmer, and meet the Snow Prince along the way.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:55 am

He did. "You have returned my daughter". That's exactly what he says (might be "returned, my daughter" with a comma, but I can't be sure). Think about it - nobody else hears "to" in his monologue, what are the chances that we're all wrong and you're right?

Clearly other people have, as im defending the guy who found it. :) But thanks for your know it all atitude :D And either he has a very very weird way of saying returned or he is saying returned to.

Its a minor thing and we don't need to fight about it.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:40 pm

I think 'my daughter' is his castle.

That makes alot more sense now... :) There trying to trick us... tricky Bethesda. They are trying to make us think he is talking about a real daughter and not his castle.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:54 pm

Allow me to jump into this "To or not To" debate.

First of all, there is more than one form of "To." He could have said "You have returned too, my daughter," indicating that not only have you returned, but so has his daughter. Or he could be saying you returned to his daughter.

The reason I don't think he said "returned to my daughter" is that we don't have any indication of who these people are, daughter included. This is the first time we've ever met them, and this trailer is their introduction. Therefore, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me for them to include dialogue that makes it sound as if we've already met them, even if that dialogue is from a later part of the dlc. Saying we have returned to them the first time we as an audience see them implies the character has some past history with them. This works fine in movies or games with established characters but not in games where we build a character from scratch. One could argue that they are not actually speaking to the dragonborn, but that argument is weakened by the character asking whose side will whoever he's speaking to join. Since it's unlikely that there will be NPCs that make faction choices that are dynamic, it stands to reason that we're the person he's speaking to.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:02 pm

Okay after hearing the trailer for the 15th time.
Im quite sure he either said "You have returned my daughter" or "You have returned. My Daughter".

Quite sure that the "Too" was not said.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:04 pm

Am i the only one with ears?! He clearly says to!

Ok ill give you the benift of the doubt and say he did say Return d (The D comes later that could also be a To)
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:59 pm

Am i the only one with ears?! He clearly says to!

Or possibly "too." Maybe even "two," though admittedly that one doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:21 pm

When the Dovahkiin is walking fowards as the sun dies, you can see Dragonsreach in the background, over his left shoulder. Obviously Whiterun is an important focal point for the 'eternal night' thingy.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:36 am

The first time I heard it, I thought it said "You have returned my daughter."

After seeing the "to" discussion, it did sound like "You have returned to my daughter."

But now, listening to it a few more times, it sounds like "You have returned, my daughter."

It's kind of ambiguous to me.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:57 am

Clearly other people have, as im defending the guy who found it. :smile: But thanks for your know it all atitude :biggrin: And either he has a very very weird way of saying returned or he is saying returned to.

Its a minor thing and we don't need to fight about it.
Okay, so maybe you're not the only one who hears this :P Sorry for the attitude, I always have it when I stay up late to read 384723 posts about newly announced, incredibly important games :blush:

What I'd say is: either he has a very very weird way of saying "returned to" or he is saying "returned" ;)

He's definitely not saying "too". If he was, there would be a distinct - even if short - pause between "too" and "my daughter". There's no pause at all, therefore it can't be "too".

But I'm not even a native English speaker, so yeah.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:18 am

After doing some test, and listening VERY closely with high def speakers/headphones, and running the clip through voice recognition software, he says "You have returned to my daughter." Without a single doubt. There is a literal BREAK between the word "returned" and "to", it's not a question. Listen to it in slow motion.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:02 pm

This is a very silly debate, but never the less, allow me to explain why I think it's the way I think he doesn't say 'to'. That is, asides from the fact that's very clearly what we can hear him say, hey ho.

He says, "You have returned, my daughter" as the girl walks into the room, with an elder scroll on her back. He is talking to this girl, who isn't the Dragonborn, but is in fact, his daughter. The event we see in the trailer could be any number of things; it's likely a reunion between the two, with the Dragonborn walking behind her. Or, it could be that we're having a flashback courtesy of the elder scroll. The main incentive behind the DLC as the narrator/vampire chap we see states, is that said vampire chap desires the elder scroll so he can blot out the sun or perhaps (and I like this bit) drag Tamriel into Coldharbour, Molag Bal's (creator of vampirism and lord of other nasty things) realm of Oblivion. Daughter steals elder scroll, he isn't pleased with her, Dragonborn steps in. No 'to'.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:35 pm

This is a very silly debate, but never the less, allow me to explain why I think it's the way I think he doesn't say 'to'. That is, asides from the fact that's very clearly what we can hear him say, hey ho.

He says, "You have returned, my daughter" as the girl walks into the room, with an elder scroll on her back. He is talking to this girl, who isn't the Dragonborn, but is in fact, his daughter. The event we see in the trailer could be any number of things; it's likely a reunion between the two, with the Dragonborn walking behind her. Or, it could be that we're having a flashback courtesy of the elder scroll. The main incentive behind the DLC as the narrator/vampire chap we see states, is that said vampire chap desires the elder scroll so he can blot out the sun or perhaps (and I like this bit) drag Tamriel into Coldharbour, Molag Bal's (creator of vampirism and lord of other nasty things) realm of Oblivion. Daughter steals elder scroll, he isn't pleased with her, Dragonborn steps in. No 'to'.

Except that science and technology has just proven he indeed says "to". Problem? Slow the clip down, run it through a high definition pair of headphones, and then run it through a voice recognition program. He says "TO".
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:11 am

Except that science and technology has just proven he indeed says "to". Problem? Slow the clip down, run it through a high definition pair of headphones, and then run it through a voice recognition program. He says "TO".
It's just emphasis for dramatic effect.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:27 pm

Except that science and technology has just proven he indeed says "to". Problem? Slow the clip down, run it through a high definition pair of headphones, and then run it through a voice recognition program. He says "TO".

Lol im interested to know what voice recognition program you are using thats so 100% accurate?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:34 pm

The narrators voice is already in the game, the voice is of Molag Bal. My guess is the guy you see at the start there is a human manifestation of Molag Bal.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:32 pm

Except that science and technology has just proven he indeed says "to". Problem? Slow the clip down, run it through a high definition pair of headphones, and then run it through a voice recognition program. He says "TO".
I slowed it down and I still can't hear it :ahhh:

What program are you using? I'm really intrigued now.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:15 pm

I am guessing that the start of the DLC is meeting up on the vampire lord′s daughter, and if you somehow aid her in a quest she will lead you to the Vampire castle....if you dont aid her maybe you get approached by the dawnguard..either way it looks mighty cool
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