A Detailed Minute by Minute Dissection of the Dawnguard Trai

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:18 am

As it hasn't been mentioned, the new Dawnguard shield looks pretty awesome, as does the new axe (with Dawnguard symbol on it as well). Hints that there may be a whole Dawnguard weapon set.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:07 pm

Has anyone considered that he is just stating my daughter in the context of a your vamprire just turned? So he would in effect be welcoming the character we see, in the same way a priest would say "Ah welcome my child".

As for the DLC, looks like I need some MS points, because its looking awesome.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:40 pm

You missed the point that the elder scroll shows a map over the reach

Yup, for some reason can't spot that it is the reach..
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:48 pm

Has anyone considered that he is just stating my daughter in the context of a your vamprire just turned? So he would in effect be welcoming the character we see, in the same way a priest would say "Ah welcome my child".

As for the DLC, looks like I need some MS points, because its looking awesome.

1600 points i think?
huh, better be worth it..
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:38 pm

All I hear is a voice actor saying "return" + silent e + hard d. Notice it's the same hard d sound as "my daughter". Articulation, folks. (Which given the character's "noble-looking" makes sense.) There's not even a "o" sound.
Based on the lower tone on "my daughter" and slight pause, I'd say there's a comma too and he's referring to the person's he's talking to.
"You have returned, my daughter." is what I hear. Had he used "my daughter" as the object, its tone would've remained the same or slightly higher and more of a direct continuation without the slight pause. Try saying the same words but with different tone on "my daughter" and you should notice a difference in meaning.

EDIT: Consider listening to the "to" at 0:21. This one and the disputed "to" sound different. Pronunciation speed is about the same, too, yet there's a small but distinct difference in the pronunciation time, as well.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:22 pm

Ok, re: the 'to' my daughter "controversy"...

Here's the original audio:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebcoutu/returnedmydaughter.mp3

Here is that same clip slowed down x3, same pitch:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ebcoutu/returnedmydaughterslowx3.mp3

What you can clearly see is that the actor is enunciating very clearly and you can hear the same 'd/t' sound at the end of "found" in "found my fortress". So when he says "returned my daughter"... there is no "to" after "returned"... it's just a tick of the tongue. -10 for whatever 'voice recognition' program someone is using.

Additionally, it sounds like a list, so I would say that it should read:

"You have found our fortress, [and also] you have returned my daughter. But what is it you seek?"

There is barely a pause between 'returned' and 'my daughter' and only a very slight drop in his pitch. For such a dramatic reading, those cues would have been much more prominent if he was reading "returned, my daughter".
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 am

Has anyone considered that he is just stating my daughter in the context of a your vamprire just turned? So he would in effect be welcoming the character we see, in the same way a priest would say "Ah welcome my child".

Based on what he says after I don't interpret it that way... but it certainly could be.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:00 pm

There is barely a pause between 'returned' and 'my daughter' and only a very slight drop in his pitch. For such a dramatic reading, those cues would have been much more prominent if he was reading "returned, my daughter".
As a list, I still feel that there shouldn't be a drop in his pitch. It doesn't sound right, but maybe that's just me.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:37 pm

As far as this 'to' thing, I think that it is just an emphasis on the 'd' of persuade... he does the same thing with other words.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:19 pm

The first time I heard it, I thought it said "You have returned my daughter."

After seeing the "to" discussion, it did sound like "You have returned to my daughter."

But now, listening to it a few more times, it sounds like "You have returned, my daughter."

It's kind of ambiguous to me.

After listening to it a few more times, I don't think it's a "to" - I agree with those who say it's just the way the voice actor speaks.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:23 pm

I too heard no 'to'. Not that this is in any way interesting aside fromt he fact there is an awesome new trailer, and people are debating whether two letters are in his sentence. O_o

I assume that we save his daughter, and he is talking to us. 'You have returned my daughter', or 'You have saved and brought my daughter back to my castle' as I took it. I could be wrong of course. We will find out in due time.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:22 am

Lol im interested to know what voice recognition program you are using thats so 100% accurate?
I slowed it down and I still can't hear it :ahhh:

What program are you using? I'm really intrigued now.

Dragon.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:47 pm

Love it BIG trailer - loads of content and we have a `to be or not to be debate` to be fair both sides `could` be right and we will know when it is released
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:26 pm

Dragon.
Definitely not even close to 100% accurate then. We use it at work, and it does get quite accurate once someone has 'taught' it to learn how they speak over a month or so, but with a new person or out of the box... it can generate some hilarious results.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:56 pm

At 0:26 it seems the vampire lord thing does a shout, specifically Aura Whisper.

I agree that 1:08 looks like a map with Markarth and Solitude being represented by the red symbols.

Any speculation on what is going on at 0:58? When I first saw it I thought the vampire was shot and upon dying turned into a poof of bats.. but after watching gamespots trailer breakdown it looks more like the vampire did it purposfully or something.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:38 pm

Overall quite a nice trailer, seems very mature and dark in theme

Yeah, cuz glowy purplish pits into the abyss, demon horses awash in blue flames, and dragons don't totally scream saturday morning cartoons...
I'm thinking Yu-Gi-Oh. Anyone got pics?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:30 am

Yeah, cuz glowy purplish pits into the abyss, demon horses awash in blue flames, and dragons don't totally scream saturday morning cartoons...
I'm thinking Yu-Gi-Oh. Anyone got pics?


"You know. The Shadow Realm. The big purpley cloudy place that you go to when something really bad happens to you."
I think you're talking about Hell.
"No, it's the Shadow Realm. You know whenever people fall from a really tall building ...or...they get stabbed in the chest. They go straight to the Shadow Realm. What? You guys don't have the Shadow Realm in the future?"
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:35 am

I agree that 1:08 looks like a map with Markarth and Solitude being represented by the red symbols.
Especially because the 'red symbols' are the shield emblems of Markarth and Solitude.

Any speculation on what is going on at 0:58? When I first saw it I thought the vampire was shot and upon dying turned into a poof of bats.. but after watching gamespots trailer breakdown it looks more like the vampire did it purposfully or something.
There was no shot from the bow, so I agree that it looks like a new (or perhaps a unique NPC) vampire 'power'.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:19 am

Hey if Molag bal is going to have a role with the Vampires(he created vampires, and his shrine is apparently a location relevant to the DLC), I wonder if Meridia will have a role with the Dawnguard(She's Molag Bals enemy, she hates undead, and you get the weapon "Dawnbreaker" from her).
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:04 pm

Muhahaha, I'm ahead of the cool crowed that finds stuff for once as i've seen this already! :D
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:12 am

Muhahaha, I'm ahead of the cool crowed that finds stuff for once as i've seen this already! :biggrin:
We've all seen the same trailer the moment it was released and we're now trying to read as much as we can from it. What do you know and what did you see that we didn't? Please, do share.

Hey if Molag bal is going to have a role with the Vampires(he created vampires, and his shrine is apparently a location relevant to the DLC), I wonder if Meridia will have a role with the Dawnguard(She's Molag Bals enemy, she hates undead, and you get the weapon "Dawnbreaker" from her).
Molag Bal's altar is in Markarth. Meridia's statue is just west of Solitude. Coincidence? I think not.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:41 am


Molag Bal's altar is in Markarth. Meridia's statue is just west of Solitude. Coincidence? I think not.
For sure.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:51 pm

Am i the only one in this forum who just saw a man on the back of the dragon, diving into the ice?

And the only one that has read the book "immortal blood", where the "storyteller" tells about the special; extremely powerfull species of vampires that live beneath the ice in Skyrim?

And noticed that "Capes/cloaks" finally will be included in some armors..?

:-D
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:21 am

haha seriously.... it says "you have returned my daughter"
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:16 pm

Am i the only one in this forum who just saw a man on the back of the dragon, diving into the ice?

And the only one that has read the book "immortal blood", where the "storyteller" tells about the special; extremely powerfull species of vampires that live beneath the ice in Skyrim?

And noticed that "Capes/cloaks" finally will be included in some armors..?

:-D
I give up. Either I'm blind and deaf, or everybody else is seeing and hearing things.
Where did you see a man? It was just a dragon, nothing on his back. Or, as I said, I'm completely blind.

Capes are awesome :)
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