Looking back at some of the footage I dind't really see the Dawnguard fighting the Vampires. So if I missed it, can someone link the video?

But I thought Skyrim contained a group dedicated to hunting vampires, daedra, and the likes? The Vigilants of Stendarr...
The Dawnguard seem like they are a version of the Vigilants who wear armor, have a cool fort, and have crossbows to use.

Now since I do not know of any footage showing the Dawnguard fighting with the Vampires, and there are rumors of Snow Elves for the Dawnguard to fight. I for one thought it would have made sense to use a faction that's already in game to hunt the Vampires? Yet the Vigilants get no attention on this crisis?

Besides the fact they have a pitiful HeadQuarters, and only 1 quest i know of, that basically means they're just wasted space in the game. I like the Vigilant and thought the Dawnguard DLC would suite them well, or atleast havee them involved?

I hope there is more to this DLC then we know... I figured Bethesda could keep some surprises for us right? Or is that oo much to hope?

Anyone else agree? Maybe you hate the Vigilant, but if you think about their purpose in Skyrim it only makes sense that they'd want to prevent a total blackout of the sun by one of their most hated enemies.

Vigilant of Stendarr is different, much different.
Also, of course they'd want to prevent that, but perhaps they don't know? I really hope the Vigilant isn't involved, I've said this many athread, they're way way WAY too serious about eradicating 'evil.'

edit: What I mean by they're too serious is that they want to eradicate all vampires, werewolves, and daedra, whether they're evil or not. They take it too far.

Yeah thus they would need to be in this DLC. What bigger threat than the DLC plot do the vampires have?

That would be silly not to get them involved for being 'too serious' about eradicating evil.

If the Vigilant is involved, and involved with the Dawnguard, I'll side with the vampires. Even though I originally intended to be with the Dawnguard at every turn.

That's really how much I hate them and their 'cause.' Way too serious, you shouldn't want to kill someone who helped a daedra get something back(Azura). Not only that, Azura isn't even truly evil. Nor is Meridia. But they wish them gone as well.

I think the main difference is that the Dawnguard isn't worthless.
Because in all honesty, the Vigilants are pitiful.

Yeah, the vigilants are a little bit fanatic. I think the line, "Walk always in the light, or we will drag you to it." sums it up quite nice. The dawnguard probably won't be as crazy, (or at least as a whole.)

I surely hope you're right, I don't want another over-zealous faction.

Well you got the Vigilants hunting Daedra, the Silver Hand hunting Werewolves and now the Dawnguard hunting vampires. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be just as zealous as the others. Maybe more so since they have a cool fort and all.

Vigilant of stendarr? you mean the worthless vagabonds that walk Skyrim in robe? They're useless...

Vigilants of stendarr are a bi useless i mean i never seen them actually killing or expeling a deadra!

Yeah the Vigilants in Skyrim are by far useless. But over zealous? No way! That is the whole thought of being in a guild. Do what you do at 110%.

No offense but if you don't like them don't join them. I hope they are in Dawnguard.

Imo, there are way too few Vigilant of Stendarr quests/dialogs in Skyrim to say that they are over-zealous. Over-zealous/fanatic would be if they would destroy a whole village, just because one inhabitant was a daedra worshiper.

Maybe there will be some Dawnguard quests involving the Vigilants of Stendarr, quest were the dawnguard as for support from the Vigilants of Stendarr, because they want to atak castle volkair.

Yes basically Skyrim has the vigilant for killing vampires, undead and daedra. However Beth do not like their own lore and like to make unoriginal DLC, so we have a vampire DLC.

I hope Dawnguard doesn't have the overzealousness of the Vigilant, though honestly they only sound nutty in their dialouge, they never actually DO anything to act on their fanaticism. You can summon daedra or do a daedra quest in front of them and they won't do anything. They don't actually kill/fight any innocent daedric worshippers either.

But yeah, I don't like their line about offering no mercy even though they're fighting in the name of the God of Mercy.

Personally I don't see any reason to compare the Dawnguard to the Vigilants. They both fight vampires. So what? So will any random townsfolk who sees a vampire beyond a certain stage. The Dawnguard, based on their name, are likely about preventing the blocking out of the sun. That is a pretty serious task, and it is not unreasonable to have an order devoted to it.

I think the purpose of the Vigilants in terms of gameplay is to give players grief about walking around with daedric artifacts equipped. That purpose would have to be compromised to allow them to be a major source of quests for the player.

Thus the Vigilant of Stendarr.

I don't get where all this "over zealous" crap comes from. They dislike daedra. The Thalmor are obsessed with killing the blades, and preventing all Talos Worshipping. They're cocky and annoying and zealous.

Some of you need to look up what 'zealous' means because I think you have it confused with another word.

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So the only purpose for making the Vigilant is for those random encounters where if the player just so happens to be wearing daedra armor they can give them grief?

How would it have to be compromised? They don't do anything to the player if anything daedric is equipped. I think they'll set aside that little bit of "daedric armor?!?!?!?!?!?" to focus on preventing the sun from being bocked...

I really am confused as to how so many of you find them over zealous and nutty yet they have little to nothing in Skyrim as far as quests and dialogue. The books in Skyrim have more dialogue than they do!

So much self-righteousness in this thread....

Anyway, Bethesda is trying to appeal to a wider audience and they can't let things like lore get in the way. It's a lot like the last Star Trek movie. Remaining true to lore tends to turn off people who are new to a franchise because they don't understand the background of the characters or history behind the plot.

There is your answer. The vigilant are an order created after oblivion to fight and kill all deadra and deadra worshipers. While they do talk about killing vamps, it is not their main focus. I'm sure people like the silver hand would attack a vampire if they saw one even though their order is dedicated to werewolves.

In the E3 Video there is a scene where a arm-less body is laying on the floor and the guy is wearing a Stendarr amulet. So maybe...

So since their order is dedicated to warding off daedra, they're automatically overzealous?

You misunderstand me. I wasn't making a comment on whether or not they are over zealous, I was just trying to put my two cents in on the original question of why Bethesda didn't use them for the vampire hunting faction. I apologize for not making that more clear. I probably didn't use a good post to quote lol.

Yeah I see. I get they're not the premier group for vampire slaying, but it is silly to leave them out all together.

True, but maybe they are still involved in some way as LeBurns mentioned he saw a dead body of a man with a stendar amulet so they could still be involved.