Technically they are Mer but I haven't seen nor hear anything about them being "friendly" with their cousins.

Who do they support, the Dominion or maybe the Empire.


Also, I realise that Vvanderfell has been ****** up lately but still.

I think the Dunmer are pretty much out for themselves, and have been ever since Veloth led them to Morrowind. The Empire even gave them a lot of autonomy when the Tribunal was alive. There's a book in Jorrvaskr's living quarters written by a Dunmer living in Windhelm that talks about the Dunmer wanting to migrate to and take over Skyrim, now that the Red Mountain has pretty much ruined Morrowind for probably hundreds of years.

They aren't to my knowledge greatly allied with the Aldmeri Dominion. The Aldmeri Dominion is Summerset Isles (Altmer) and Valenwood (Bosmer) but also have Elsweyr (Khajiit) as their allies. Apart from this they are on their own.

The Dunmer were for years at hatred with the Argonians but to my knowledge they have recently made peace with each other and have even signed a treaty / union. I could be wrong here -> lore experts?.

Maybe the Dunmer will ally with Orsimer and will make their own elven dominion of corrupted mer. It'll be grey (& greeny grey) skinned corrupted mer verses the yellowy skinned Aldmeri.

I think they pretty much don't have any alliances anymore, probably some connection to the empire, but it's really loose now. They are on their own pretty much.

I don't think the altmer hold the dunmer in particularly high regard...

They've always been for themselves.

The Thalmor view the Dunmer as mongrels unfit for living due to lack of purity, just like everyone else. One threatend to ship my Dunmer to Vvardenfell in a crate. So... no, they're not on the best terms. That and the Altmer and Dunmer have historicaly not been very big fans of one another. Then again the Dunmer pretty much hate everybody.

Anyone knowledgeable on the "Ebonheart Pact" where we see the Dunmer and the Argonians forming an allegiance? When is it supposed to be set?

The Chimer were sort of like Altmer before being cursed but they left their home land to migrate to Morrowind centuries ago. The Altmer hold them in contempt anyway.

If a Dunmer is going to side with anyone it is going to be with either other Dunmer or the Empire.

Thanks to Mr Ulfrick the Dunmer resent the Nords even more than they would because of the way he had them treated. If he had any intelligence whatsoever he would realise that the Dunmer do not hold any alliegence to the Empire nor the Dominion, they never had to be an enemy but Ulfrick didn't have the intelligence to realise this and in his mind it's Nords vs all other races.

The Dunmer may have united under him if he promised them equality but as it is, they are a wasted entity.

Dunmer are now, and have always been, my most resented race in the TES universe (for countless reasons), and this is coming from someone who played extensively through Morrowind with a Dark Elf build:

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The Ebonheart Pact is in the 2nd Era, well over 600 years(most likely much more) before the events of Skyrim.

Damn it! That means that although most Argonians have no idea what the Ebonheart Pact is while many Dunmer do. SO that means that the elf scum is at the advantage should my well planned attack on all of Tamriel... er I mean my good sparring contest with our Dark Elf buddys will be harder!

The MMO takes place about 25 years after the Akaviri invasion of Morrowind, so is set around 2E600

You do realize that not only did ulfric not put them in the grey quarter(That was 160 years ago when they moved in), but that the dunmer of Windhelm are by legal rights their own nation inside skyrim. They don't pay taxes, self govern, and don't owe allegiance to any jarl. He never made them an enemy, they decided to seclude themselves from the nords, because that's the way the dunmer of morrowind always did things. Neither side has ever liked the other one.

More to the topic though.

The dunmer don't really have anyone they can really trust.
The thalmor would execute them on the spot because of the daedra worship and conflicts of the past.
Most dunmer saw the imperials as oppressors in Morrowind(House Hlaalu less so)
The nords and dunmer have had a fued lasting since shortly after the night of tears thousands of years ago.
When they were in power, they harvested hist from argonia, and enslaved argonians.(Which during red year the hist got their revenge for)

They've never really been the friend-making sort. But when you have three living gods backing you, you typically don't need many friends. Until they of course die/disappear on you and everything around you goes to hell.

After what happened with the First Aldmeri Dominion, the Dunmer don't have such high regard for the Altmer either.

The Dunmer left the Sommerset Isles after the Aldmeri couldn't accept that the Dunmer weren't going to stop worshiping their Ancestors and the Daedra Princes instead of the Nine (Eight) Divines. At this time, the Dunmer were known as the Chimer.

The Chimer settles in Morrowind, and during one of their Wars with the Dwemer, Azura cursed them turning their eyes as red as blood, and their skin the color of Ash. Thus they took the name Dunmer.

As far as I know, the Dunmer have unofficially seceded from the Empire. Could be because the Empire didn't lift a finger during the eruption of Red Mountain, nor did they assist during the aftermath of that when the Argonian armies of Black Marsh invaded a vastly weakened Morrowind. Now the Dunmer are rebuilding their Kingdom on the island of Solstheim.

they have no love for the Aldmeri Dominion (old 1st one, or the new one) or the Thalmor, but neither does their love run freely for the Empire. The Empire loved making use of Dunmer Destruction Mages and Sword masters in their wars, but when Morrowind needed help, they didn't do [censored].

Imperial S'wit...

Vivec gave the Numidium to Tiber Septim. Tiber Septim used the Numidium to besiege Alinor, and force the Altmer to become part of the third Empire. Kind of makes Vivec arch-traitor to the Altmer. And it's not like they were on good terms anyway, what with the Chimer dealing with Padomaics rather than 'our ancestors'.

This is correct.

The Dunmer are surely considered as lowly as the humans or beast races by the Aldmeri Dominion. While they are mer, they abandonded the ways of the Altmer and left the Summerset Isles thousands of years ago. And to add to that, their entire race was cursed by Azura and their skin was colored gray as ash and their eyes red. With a race that's known for their golden skin and beauty, it's hard to believe they want anything to do with the Dunmer.

The Dunmer and Orsimer are cursed and not considered Aldmer anymore. The mer in High Rock interbred with Humans and are not considered Aldmer anymore. The Dwemer, Falmer and Ayleids are all dead, twisted or gone. The only mer who still live close to Alinor and have some resemblance to the Altmer are the Bosmer, and that's why they consider them their Aldmeri cousins.

As to whether the Dunmer support the Empire or not... Depends on what state Morrowind is in. If they're doing pretty good, chances are they want to stick to themselves. If they're still in a bad shape, they could be more open to the idea of sticking with the Empire.

I kind of feel bad for the Dunmer, not only did Vvardenfell erupt but now most of Morrowind has been conquered by the Argonians.

I don't.

I really hope that in future iterations, when they advance the story, that the Nords in some way ship them into slavery. it would literally be the ultimate irony.

The Argonians didn't even conquer Morrowind. They tore a path of destruction and pillaging across Morrowind, but didn't keep any land. Once they decided that they were done, they just went back to Black Marsh.

Meanwhile, the Dunmer are busy rebuilding their Kingdom on Solstheim. We'll be back.

Oh, yes.

We will be back.

Yes indeed we will.

Just to throw another Spanner in the works, remember Valenwood is ocupied by the Aldmeri. Seems most Bosmer - if you look at the main quest - dislike the Aldmeri dominion. Which makes sense, when the Empire took over, as with the Dunmer they could see it would be too costly to fully take over, so they made allowances to the Bosmer, such as leaving them practice cannibalism etc. The Thalmor seem to be more oppressive. But where the Bosmer are stuck, is that they depend on the Altmer for trade.

Due to the green pact, the Bosmer can not harm any living thing for self use. Meaning no wood for huts/fires, no animal/plant for food. Thus why they eat their own and use the bones for tools. The other way around it is to trade for wood with others races, that way they did not harm the living thing by their own hands. They are over a Barrel, but if it came to it, with some assurances from the Empire, I think they would revolt.

Also remember Valenwood isnt too centralised, but is instead made up of many Tribes who each have their own leader, this the Empire also alowed. Not sure how the Aldmeri have dealt with that.

Are the Khajiit full allies? Or are they also over a barrel? We know the Altmer have had great influence on both races since the war between them.

Indeed sera, for we will strike the foulness that killed and burned in our land with the skill of the bow, sword and magic (we are all naturally good all rounders, you will see).

I would like to put one thousand Argonian heads on spikes at the southern border, and then some more.

They would support themselves and let's just say that they're no friends of dominion.

Judging by how Ri'saad considers...


...odds are good that there are more than a few catmen who loathe the Thalmor.

I imagine the Renrijra Krin are causing no end of grief for the Thalmor in Eleswyr. That, or they got wiped after causing too much grief.