Dunmer Aren't British.

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:26 pm

What accent would you say the voice has that is used for most of the Dunmer males in Morrowind?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:48 pm

I'm actually OK with the Dunmer rasp being gone, though I miss it somewhat.

The raspy voice is the mark of a Morrowind native. That is why in Morrowind, even if you were a Dunmer, you were instantly identified as an n'wah.
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Nathan Risch
 
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:23 am

The Southern cowboy accent is distantly related to the Scottish highland accent. This goes way back to the 1600's when people just started settling in america.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:55 pm

I prefer the Skyrim voice for them over the one posted in the OP video. It sounds terrible, imho.
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Leah
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:05 pm

Meh they sound scary in Morrowind.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:56 am

The Southern cowboy accent is distantly related to the Scottish highland accent. This goes way back to the 1600's when people just started settling in america.

I wish they hadn't.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:43 am

Take my word for it, international friends - the Dunmer in Skyrim don't sound remotely British. That atrocious dike Van Dyke "cockney" accent is laughably bad.

Indeed. If you think that's a Cockney accent, you've never been to England.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:51 pm

the who?
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Alisha Clarke
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:00 pm

Another accent that's worth discussing is that almost every male Redguard sounds like Tiger Woods. Off the top of my head, the only one that doesn't is Whatshisname in the DB.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:22 pm

Another accent that's worth discussing is that almost every male Redguard sounds like Tiger Woods. Off the top of my head, the only one that doesn't is Whatshisname in the DB.

lol.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:20 pm

I have to say, the Dark Elf voice this time around was probably the worst voice-over decision in video game history. It sounds absolutely ridiculous!

Perhaps they intended it to be modded completely out?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:44 pm

Interesting thread, this.

They sound to me like a combination of cockney/strong working class London city and 'Australian' (of course there are many, many different Australian accents too). They wouldn't sound at home in either place, but they land somewhere between the two.

As for the Dunmer in that YouTube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG8OjKiGAvEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG8OjKiGAvE

The one from 'Redguard' uses some variation of an English accent, but the ones from 'Morrowind' are a sort of hybrid and thus sound more American to me (being English) but likely sound more English to an American. They use the non rhotic pronounciation that's used in almost all of England (West Country is the main exception - think stereotypical pirate voice and then remove the raspiness and forcefulness, and any 'ARR's you may have included) and that means not pronouncing the 'R' in words like....word - park is pronounced "paak" rather than "parrk". Once thing they do which English people with those type of (Southern) accents don't do is pronounced the 'short a' in words like 'fast'. Northern accents do this, but they're not emulating a Northern accent at all here so that's not too relevant. It does bug me when people say "there's no R in bath", like a user (playfully) said. Nor is there an R in 'father' or 'Chicago' but we all pronounce those with the long a sound. The most frequent mistake people make when immitating Southern English accents (and if you're not immitating The Beatles, you're almost certainly immitting a Southern accent) is the 'T's. Americans tend to pronounce Ts as Ds and we never do that. Sure, a few people do this every once in a while but they sound ridiculous and don't deserve a mention, but any time you hear an American say "I'm Briddish" you know they svck at doing English accents.

I think, dodgy Dunmer aside, Skyrim's done a great job with accents. There's a great mix and although such an eclectic mix wouldn't actually make any sense in real life, it doesn't establish one accent for the region and so there's something to please (and annoy) everyone. I'd hate it if everyone had an American accent simply because it's too strongly associated with modern Western culture - rightly or wrongly, European accents have been tied to fantasy and historical fantasy.

Next up for discussion: Sheogorath - does he sound more Scottish or Irish?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:58 pm

No, it's not cockney nor is it English and definately NOT British.

it sounds like New Zealand to me

WHATWHATWHAT? Have you ever heard a NZ accent?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:46 pm

So by 'British', are we really talking about England? There is a rather large difference.

On topic though, I think the new accents are fairly enjoyable, I prefer Morrowind's as I'm sure many others here do too, but I can still tolerate the new ones.

I do wish they would bring back the prior Redguard's voice actor (Michael Mack) though, the Redguard's just aren't the same without him.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:06 pm

As people have discovered, an actor's dialect will rarely, if ever, sound like an authentic regional dialect.

I'm 90% sure that the actors in this game were going for Cockney, because what they're doing would be acceptable on stage as a broad Cockney dialect. It would only sound "off" to someone who was more intimately familiar with British dialects, because that person would know that no one speaks like that.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:22 pm

I'm from Eastern Kentucky. They should model the wood elves after voices after Appalachians lol. You would have a to have subtitles if y'all aint frum round her.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:10 pm

Interesting thread, this.

They sound to me like a combination of cockney/strong working class London city and 'Australian' (of course there are many, many different Australian accents too). They wouldn't sound at home in either place, but they land somewhere between the two.

As for the Dunmer in that YouTube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG8OjKiGAvEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG8OjKiGAvE

The one from 'Redguard' uses some variation of an English accent, but the ones from 'Morrowind' are a sort of hybrid and thus sound more American to me (being English) but likely sound more English to an American. They use the non rhotic pronounciation that's used in almost all of England (West Country is the main exception - think stereotypical pirate voice and then remove the raspiness and forcefulness, and any 'ARR's you may have included) and that means not pronouncing the 'R' in words like....word - park is pronounced "paak" rather than "parrk". Once thing they do which English people with those type of (Southern) accents don't do is pronounced the 'short a' in words like 'fast'. Northern accents do this, but they're not emulating a Northern accent at all here so that's not too relevant. It does bug me when people say "there's no R in bath", like a user (playfully) said. Nor is there an R in 'father' or 'Chicago' but we all pronounce those with the long a sound. The most frequent mistake people make when immitating Southern English accents (and if you're not immitating The Beatles, you're almost certainly immitting a Southern accent) is the 'T's. Americans tend to pronounce Ts as Ds and we never do that. Sure, a few people do this every once in a while but they sound ridiculous and don't deserve a mention, but any time you hear an American say "I'm Briddish" you know they svck at doing English accents.

I think, dodgy Dunmer aside, Skyrim's done a great job with accents. There's a great mix and although such an eclectic mix wouldn't actually make any sense in real life, it doesn't establish one accent for the region and so there's something to please (and annoy) everyone. I'd hate it if everyone had an American accent simply because it's too strongly associated with modern Western culture - rightly or wrongly, European accents have been tied to fantasy and historical fantasy.

Next up for discussion: Sheogorath - does he sound more Scottish or Irish?

+10 internets for channeling Henry Higgins.
I think Sheogorath is heading toward Scottish more than Irish, but when you put Sheogorath together with Wes Johnson you get 100% wink and a nod mischief.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:34 am

When I heard them in the demo I was stunned.

When I heard them in game I said:

"They sound European?"
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:44 pm

They have such a weak sounding British(any of the many accents from England that I don't feel like naming) or Australian that it just sounds like bored people. I did talk to some of them in Windhelm, and... I'll just use Ashens as an example of what I thought the male Dunmer sounded like, only not as thickly accented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX4tmNDVjjk&context=C47900b7ADvjVQa1PpcFM1A1Q1KipQXMsqIL7Y4bO0bFoGPRe6Z_w=
As a bonus, you get to hear this British person enjoy burning Draco Malfloy the Poundland figure!

At least the Dunmer have good taste in guys who review stuff from stores that sell things that only cost a dollar, or a pound. Quick! Someone make a mod that add a Dollar Store into Skyrim.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:56 am

Well, what precisely is an "Elven" accent, and what does it sound like? I've never met an dunmer in real life.

For all we know they should sound like they are from Jersey.
I'm personally neutral on this matter, but this is a HORRIBLE (read 'stupid') way to reply to this topic.
'It's just a game', 'it's magic' and it doesn't exist'-like answers on these forums are simply silly.
There are time when they can be used, but people obviously don't know when that time is.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:00 pm

Another accent that's worth discussing is that almost every male Redguard sounds like Tiger Woods. Off the top of my head, the only one that doesn't is Whatshisname in the DB.
That's because it's not the same voice actor. Nazir is played by Erik Dellums, aka Three Dog.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:55 pm

Yeah, I agree (I like hearing accents from Maine, myself), but the assumption is the paying public tend to associate fantasy with medieval, (we are already on shaky ground here) and medieval with English/Welsh/Irish/Scottish and a variety of European accents. *shrug*

You mean like the Fable games? *shudders* The voices in that game pissed me off to no end.

The one fantasy game series where the voices didn't stick out like a sore thumb was Baldur's Gate. Although they seemed to have a variety of accents they all seemed to fit the characters and environments well. (I'll forget Imoen).

Anyway, in Skyrim the male Dunmer voice (and also the female Altmer) really stick out for some reason and drag me kicking and screaming back to reality.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:35 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1355705-different-accent-tes/

Another thread with a lot of good points in the general discussion forum
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:05 pm

well, they sound better than they did in oblivion - there's a bit of gravel.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:10 pm

WHATWHATWHAT? Have you ever heard a NZ accent?


Yes, i am wise beyond my years. Have you heard a cockney accent? because that suggestion is just as ludicrous.
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