Elder Dragons Wtf? : V

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:26 am

why am i being attacked randomly by elder dragons when i havent even touched the mainquest?? wtf is going on? why are they so damn strong?? im level 43 with 350 health points.. how are they "eating me" when i have full health????? flag on the damn play here!!!

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:42 pm

Did you killed the first Dragon?

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:46 am

Level 40+ = Elder Dragons.

If you are having trouble with them you may want to reconsider your build choice or turn the difficulty down.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:04 am

Maybe they think your good and crunchy with ketchup.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:10 am

Dragons are leveled encounters, regardless of mainquest progression.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:16 am

Maybe they think your good and crunchy with ketchup.

A Gaint hamburger...crunchy with Ketchup...and barbecue.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:52 am

Dragons are leveled encounters, regardless of mainquest progression.

Still, they shouldn't appear AT ALL until you did Dragon Rising main quest.

And they definitely shouldn't be able to gulp you with max health.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:05 am

did you kill the dragon in white run?

and btw, i am lvl 45 and the hardest things i get are older dragons. mostly even only blood dragons. rarely frost dragons

my sword and shield warrior wants elder dragons

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:12 am

Still, they shouldn't appear AT ALL until you did Dragon Rising main quest.

And they definitely shouldn't be able to gulp you with max health.

Yeah after the first dragon is when they appear, but your heavily railroaded up to this point so almost everyone starting out gets this far at least before deviating from the MQ. As for eating you in one go, thats what happens when you dont upgrade your health at level up. Expecting to survive against any high level creature with the starting 100 health is foolhardy. This is especially true if you have no armor to speak of as high level dragons have attacks that easily do several hundred damage when not mitigated by armor.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:54 am

He said he's got 350 Health. That's more than enough at 43.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:06 am

He said he's got 350 Health. That's more than enough at 43.

Not without armor its not, especially on higher difficulty levels. And just as a bit of side info my game originally defaulted to master when I first started playing the game, so many others may also be on master without noticing.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:29 pm

I am 59th and have started to get named dragons, though they don't seem to be too tough - and I have downgraded my weapons and armor in order to up lower skills (light armor and 1-handed, instead of heavy armor and 2-handed). The only dragons that are tough are the ancient dragons, and th toughest fight I had with them was at the College of Wizardry when it was one ancient dragon and 3 mercs out to "teach me a lession." (I guess I pissed someone off. Yippie!!!)

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:16 am

Well duh I assume by level 43 he found some already...

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:46 am

Still, they shouldn't appear AT ALL until you did Dragon Rising main quest.

Why?

It's not like they are not there just because you'r a lazy Dovahkiin.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:13 am

if you want no dragons don't do the mainquest at all. as soon as you fight the dragon in whiterun is the dragon spawn "activated"

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:56 pm

You need to try your best to overpower your character early on, and make him weaker later, if you do that you receive balance.
Me though, I like being an epic beast so level high up and beat the [censored] out of stuff. I'm only on Adept though. Seriously, it shouldn't be hard, if you find it too hard find better armour or put your difficulty down.
I'm only using an enchanted glass sword and varying from glass, steel plate, iron, imperial, and elven armours and I pwn elder dragonz.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:16 am

Why?

It's not like they are not there just because you'r a lazy Dovahkiin.

There are certain points that trigger the dragon random encounters. Prior to this quest mentioned there are no random encounters.

Spoiler

later on in the MQ you also get to a point that stops random encounters till this part of the MQ is completed

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:12 pm

What build are you using? If you're a destruction mage on master you could be in for some trouble.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:06 am

Still, they shouldn't appear AT ALL until you did Dragon Rising main quest.

And they definitely shouldn't be able to gulp you with max health.

This is not Oblivion, no starting points where the enemy start to spawn.
Alduin interfered in your execution, naturally he will fly around raising other dragons no mater that you do.
More of an problem, you are to weak for your level, this is an major issue with leveled enemies.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:13 am

"I think I'll buy this game with dragons in it."

"Oh no! I'm being attacked by a dragon!"

:rofl:

:tes:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:56 am

He said he's got 350 Health. That's more than enough at 43.

Base attack damage from a Elder Dragon is like 500 to 600, kind of forget but it's much higher then his health. So he needs a ton of armor or to run like a [censored] when they land which is my solution lol.

Op if you don't like Elder dragons just wait until you se an Ancient. I had to adjust a lot just to survive long enough to know what killed me lol. Several times it was cue music, hear dragon roar then load screen lol.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:22 am

This is not Oblivion, no starting points where the enemy start to spawn.
Alduin interfered in your execution, naturally he will fly around raising other dragons no mater that you do.
More of an problem, you are to weak for your level, this is an major issue with leveled enemies.

You're wrong. If you don't turn that dragon stone in to the court wizard on whiterun you won't see any dragons. I went all the way to level 35 without fighting a dragon.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:20 am

This is not Oblivion, no starting points where the enemy start to spawn.

Well, what can I say? You're wrong. You will not see any random Dragons until you kill the one on Estern Watch Tower. I don't know if there will be Dragons at Peaks, though.

Base attack damage from a Elder Dragon is like 500 to 600

Bite of an Elder Dragon is 225. Ancient Dragon does 300 Bite damage. Either way he should be fine even with no armor at all.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:02 am

Still, they shouldn't appear AT ALL until you did Dragon Rising main quest.

And they definitely shouldn't be able to gulp you with max health.

Glad to hear that but my lvl 49 still can be gulped / one shotted by an ancient. I was even, once, taken out one shot by the tail.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:59 am

Approaching 300 health, with a bunch of boosting as most went on magicka, forgot to heal once, so was on about three quarters, bite and throw finish, gone. Good. Still a bit of challenge at level 40+.
Or so I thought 'til one killed my horse. Worst moment since the stray dog died. Why couldn't a load of lightning bolts from me, and arrows from Kharjo and a passing hunter get it to land, but the second the horse finally decides she wants to fight it's there on the ground? Langer.