After playing Skyrim (incredible game) and reading a little on the history of Tamriel's empire, I wonder if its possible for the Dragonborn in the DLC's to become emperor and lead the fight against the Thalmor and found the Fourth Empire. Is this too ambitious for a DLC? Make decisions on who to support, battle alongside your troops, etc. It would make for an impressive expansion, but I haven't thought about the minor details and technical aspects of it.

You are not the first person to suggest this (although the Emperor bit is new AFAIK)

The hero of the story is usually sent far away after their time in the sun.

My guess is the dragonborn will retire to High Hrothgaar after Skyrim.
The people of Ivarstaad may want to buy some earplugs tho the new guy may have some different ideas than the old guard and there will be some heated arguments.

And if you pwn Paarthunax?

I mean, Talos was a Dovahkiin who put a lot of people into the ground and became an Emperor. I don't see why we can't, and then blast the Summerset Isles into Oblivion!

Exactly. Septim was the most famous man in Tamriel because of his skill in combat and the fact he was dragonborn, but our Dovakiin is the one who actually saved the world from being destroyed. From what I see Dovakiin is the single most powerful person in Skyrim and (if all four factions are completed) has a vast amount of connections. The dragonborn being born at exactly the time when the world is about to be destroyed and the fact that man is being driven into extinction by the Thalmor cannot be a coincidence. Also consider how expendable the current emperor is.

This makes sense.Also dovakhiin should be able to summon the dragons to aid him in the battle agaisnt the Thalmor,Falmer and any other creature that wants to destroy Tamriel(aka:Tosh raka and Sloads).And then there would be a new age of piece.It would me amazing see dragons fighting at your side.

I don't think it has to be in the capacity of your character becoming the new emperor, but i'd love to see DLC that focuses on the Thalmor and their presence in Skyrim.

Not as the first DLC for this game, but the last DLC for Skyrim. It would retire the character. Sort of like the MC in Oblivion becoming Sheogorath (oh... "Mad God's Blessings"). I've looked at the Dovakiin as the second coming of Talos and should establish a new line, and the Dragonfires should once again burn.

The next game should be about Elsweyr.

I also would love to see the first games through Daggerfall reissued with a full update at some point. Maybe reissue Morrowind with an update as well. I never got to play the first set. Bethesda Games rock. Yes, buggy, but if you had any idea of the complexity of the faction coding that goes into the scripting with the size, scope, and open world aspects in these games you would be shocked. Some of the PC players who've delved into the toolkit have gotten a minor taste.

You mean to have them remade? Many older games lose their charm through remakes.

Just like Fable 3...

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after u finish the Stormcloak civil questline, Ulfric is still not High King yet because hes waiting on the Moot, The DB quests makes an opening in management in the Empire. The Empire emporers used to always be dragonborns and seeing how ur currently the only one alive atm, also i dotn think Ulfrics gonna get that Moot, i think the dragonborn will. If u went with empire side, i see them allowing it so that they have a loyal King in skyrim. So theres a high king in skyrim no matter who choose. The empire is weak atm and are having the thalmor agents infest them like viruses learning all their lil secrets and technigues and etc. skyrim is fueled by its victory with a new badass dragonborn king on the throne.....mmmmI could see the empire making a "pact or whatever" with the dragonborn king to be the new ruler as long as the old rules still applied before the thalmor truce....that way they are dissolved of the truce, have a surprise jump on the thalmor infesting theier lands alrdy AND with the empire under new leadership per se i could see Hammerfell welcoming a newer empire that would help dig them out than the old empire which they would prob spit on.

i dunno maybe it could work and that way whatever we chose would be canon.

They tend to make PC chars fade away into an ambiguous ending that way it fits any type of character the player actually used. Becoming an emporer and fighting a grand war against the thalmor is not a good example in ambiguity.

that is true, one way u would have a way to tie in all the options but at the cost of RP purposes. But with the setup that they have it does seem to imply or hint that theres a chance for the dragonborn to become the emporer in the future. BUT it could work maybe if he/she were to take tiber septims spot in talos but i dunno if even as badass as the dragonborn is does he measure up to become a god, much less talos god. what if ur toon isnt even nord or doesnt even worship talos...............

erghhhhhh dangit u make a really good point, but i can dream though lol

Understandable, but being dragonborn is a pretty big deal in the Elder Scrolls series. They're not going to just introduce Dovahkiin into the world and let him/her fade off. It would be a big step to finally have the player's known and told throughout Tamriel's history.

It'd be pretty cool if we learn in the next TES that there was a 'great dragonborn emperor" and a new bloodline came along. however, not much is known about the policies that emperor made.

One of the problems seems to be, in Elder Scrolls VI (assuming there is one), the whole Empire vs. Aldmeri Dominion thing will matter (who wins, how the Empire looks by the end of it, etc.). If the Dragonborn were to become Emperor, the shape of the Empire would depend entirely upon the choices undertaken by the Dragonborn in Elder Scrolls V. For example, a Dragonborn that fought for the Stormcloaks (one possible explanation would be a popular uprising in the Empire that reunited with the Stormcloaks against the Thalmor... or the Stormcloaks could invade Cyrodil and install the Dragonborn as the new Emperor). If the Dragonborn were to back the Imperials, he would only be extending the rule of the Mede dynasty (assuming he didn't lead some coup or popular uprising himself... or the Medes could die out with Titus Mede II and the Dragonborn could be named his successor).

Of course, there's a pretty big problem if the Dragonborn joins, say, the Dark Brotherhood and murders the Emperor.

I'm of the opinion that future Elder Scrolls content should focus on the conflict between the Aldmeri Dominion and the Empire (... and the independent kingdom of Skyrim??? A problem for future content is how this works out canonically; given that the Empire is already collapsing, independence could be inevitable?). If that's introduced as a DLC or something along those lines, we don't need an Emperor Dovakiin in order to participate.

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what they plan to do with the DLC, a piece at a time.

Talos of Atmora could not (and did not) conquer Tamriel in a single steamroll of awesome but through many smaller campaigns with many different strategies, ultimately culimnating in his conquering all of Tamriel over many many years. it gives a vast array of DLC/expansion potential, new lands, new missions that detail the beginning of the Dovahkiin's conquest, and letting the Dovahkiin decide how they achieve it and on what terms.

Hell, if they get creative, they could expand the scope of the game vastly through task delegation like in the Rise of the Dawn (or whatever it was called) Oblivion mod, whereby the player took on a command role for the mythic dawn, dictating overall battle plan and helping out on foot if they chose to, but otherwise delegating and entrusting most of the work to his cultists - allowing for a much more epic scope than a single player can achieve and cutting the needed content drasticlly since the player never SEES many of the operation zones with his own eyes.

If that goes through then it seems inevitable the Dovahkiin will eventually mantle Talos himself.



I believe that the Dovahkiin will form a NEW empire under their command - this gets around the issue of straight jacketting the player into supporting a faction he may not approve of (ie. Cyrodillic empire, Stormcloak seperatists, Aldmeri Dominion) and they don't need extra content to allow for the potential of the player aligning with an unexpected faction (ie. Thalmor)

Not to mention
Not to mention that Bethesda has rendered the other lands too, in fact the UESP has somehing on it where you can see the Imperial city from high points in skyrim. Many parts, save lewaywin, have been rendered, parts of morrowind and elswer too.

all excellent ideas and outcomes, but as the other posted..........................wait a min canonically they could have it as there was a dragonborn emporer but a emporer afterwards later down the road for whatever reason had all scripts, books, statues, plaques etc removed and destroyed so there were people who knew there was a dragonborn emporer because of the whole removal evidence incident but there wouldnt be any information as to what went on during his/her reaign or what happened to them. ow ya!

For that to happen, you'd have to, uhh... *ahem* "remove" the previous emperor.

which u get to lol. the person set it up nicely that hey if hes alive, he names u heir and its just a faster promotion if ya do the DB. if u do the DB before it then seeign how ur the only dragonborn alive it goes to you for ur accomplishments and that the creater of the empire was also dragonborn and was pretty sacred and highly look upon by the empire and its civians. so win/win u get to be an emperor if ur good or bad =]

For God's sake, spell Emperor correctly

Ah, Titus Mede II, I remember brewing a special poison just for him. If this were implemented however, the Thalmor rebellion and such, I would rather blackmail the Thalmor into burning what is known as Black Marsh and cleansing Morrowind of the lizards, and overall making Tamriel the Dunmers land. The Dunmeri Dominion...

I dunno why people keep thinking the Dovahkiin can, will or must revive the CYRODILLIC empire. Talos of Atmora was a Nord who led his forces to conquer tamriel - he didn't represent anyone else established faction, he forged his own.

There is plenty of reasons both canonical, chronological, long term lore, and in terms of content requirements if the Dovahkiin forged a new empire from scratch. Throw in the whole "mantling" thing and even the Dovahkiin's race wouldn't matter because ultimately they will be mankind's protector and take on Talos' visage, like CoC took on Sheogorath's.