Enchanting.... Bethesda Failed. : V - Skyrim

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:13 am

Yes enchanting is way too limited, considering that bethesda claims to make their games about freedom.

Enchantment fails at this aspect (as many other)

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:30 am

Gotta say I am really getting pissed off with Bethesda when it comes to the short sightedness of Skyrims gameplay mechanics.

1. The new kill cams should not gain them a pat on the head, That shiznu shoulda been in the game to begin with.

...?

2. Enchanting is so freakin limited it isn't funny, If they don't fix it in a patch like they did Smithing I'm gunna rage. I can enchant a pair of cloth boots with fortify two-handed but not practicaly anything else. Cloth boots are for mages predomitatly* but I cant fortify magic, health or magic regen on boots that according to Beths own design ARE FOR THE CLASS THAT NEEDS THOSE FORTIFY'S!!

Are you saying that you want to enchant other things with Fortify 2H? Or you cannot enchant boots with anything but 2H?

The same goes for armor, Who the hell are they that they should decide what items we can enchant with what spells, by doing this they've undone their own history in previous games. I can understand not wanting us to make boots that have +200 magick but that means they should just put limiters on the strength of enchanting.

They are the developers, so it's kind of like they can do what they want.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:07 am

Gotta say I am really getting pissed off

Seems an unhealthy attitude towards something as minor as a video game. :shrug:

Who the hell are they that they should decide what items we can enchant with what spells

....the designers?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:18 am

the way i see it is

you have several choices

1. pc, costs more but gives you mods to change anything you want

2. consoles, cheaper but you're stuck to what bethesda gives you

either way you know what you get for your choice, and you should accept that

its pointless to complain about something you cant change, such as limitations on the console. especially if you know you couldve averted that if you paid some more and got it for the pc

You couldn't be more wrong. They fixed smithing on consoles as well as PC (as well as added kill cams etc... in patches), complaining worked. The OP is asking the same thing for Enchanting. No need to buy a PC for what the OP is asking for. It can be fixed in a patch. Whether Bethesda will do it is another matter.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:48 am

You couldn't be more wrong. They fixed smithing on consoles as well as PC (as well as added kill cams etc... in patches), complaining worked. The OP is asking the same thing for Enchanting. No need to buy a PC for what the OP is asking for. It can be fixed in a patch. Whether Bethesda will do it is another matter.

somehow i dont think beth feels that enchanthing is broken

and why would they fix something that isnt broken?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:01 am

You couldn't be more wrong. They fixed smithing on consoles as well as PC (as well as added kill cams etc... in patches), complaining worked. The OP is asking the same thing for Enchanting. No need to buy a PC for what the OP is asking for. It can be fixed in a patch. Whether Bethesda will do it is another matter.

Given that the smithing "fix" was just bringing it in line with the other crafting abilities, not actually changing anything about what/how you crafted...... :shrug:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:44 am

If he's on a console, there's a reason for that. Not everybody wants to drop a bunch of money on a nice gaming PC for a single game- I know I didn't.

If he bought a gaming PC you can be guaranteed he would not use it just for one game.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:35 pm

It's refreshing to see complaints about how enchanting is underpowered and terrible. Most of the complaints about enchanting is how it's OP and how it breaks the game.

Don't think the OP is complaining that enchanting is underpowered. Just that you can only put certain enchants on certain items. Specifically, some enchants cannot be put on boots that would be helpful to mages (you know, the ones who are probably most likely to wear cloth boots as opposed to light/heavy armor boots) but something like fortify 2H can, or fortify sneak. Why limit it as much so you can't put fortify magicka or fortify magicka regen on cloth boots is what the OP is getting at.

» Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:48 pm

If he bought a gaming PC you can be guaranteed he would not use it just for one game.

The argument was that he should buy a gaming PC because of something he didn't like in vanilla Skyrim, was it not?

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:52 am

Given that the smithing "fix" was just bringing it in line with the other crafting abilities, not actually changing anything about what/how you crafted...... :shrug:

You may have a point, I'm no designer. But they can go in and change code on how much skills increase dependent on value of item smithed, but can't fix code that determines what enchant can be applied to what item? As stated mods can do it I would assume Beth can too.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:12 am

You may have a point, I'm no designer. But they can go in and change code on how much skills increase dependent on value of item smithed, but can't fix code that determines what enchant can be applied to what item? As stated mods can do it I would assume Beth can too.

the whole discussion was about the fact that beth can change it, but they wont because this is how they intended it to work

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:51 am

the whole discussion was about the fact that beth can change it, but they wont because this is how they intended it to work

It's worth noting, however, that they did bring up wanting to balance some things in future updates. This could fall under that.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:16 am

Looked through the enchanting lists on the wiki. Yeah, it is a bit odd that there aren't any directly-mage-related enchants for the foot slot. On the other hand, I never noticed before because the feet do have terribly important enchants available - Resist Fire/Frost/Shock. Which are certainly still useful for ~~mages~~ every playstyle.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:53 am

The argument was that he should buy a gaming PC because of something he didn't like in vanilla Skyrim, was it not?

Irrelevent. Upon purchase of a gaming PC it can be used for many things and I have yet to be given one provable example where it has not. The major point though is that when somebody he should buy a gaming PC if he wants it fixed they were factually correct. We shouldn't argue over this though, people make choices... some bad, some good. :wink:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:14 am

Irrelevent. Upon purchase of a gaming PC it can be used for many things and I have yet to be given one provable example where it has not. The major point though is that when somebody he should buy a gaming PC if he wants it fixed they were factually correct. We shouldn't argue over this though, people make choices... some bad, some good. :wink:

What's irrelevant is pointing out that he could play other games on a gaming PC. No [censored]. I'm sure he realizes that too, but for one reason or another, he didn't want to buy one, or else he would have instead of buying a console. He was told that he should get a gaming PC so that he could play Skyrim the way he wanted. That is suggesting that he should buy a gaming PC for one particular game. I don't see what's so hard to understand about this? Nice parting shot by the way. You are so much better than other people at decision-making because you choose to play your video games on a computer instead of on a console. :thumbsup:

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:15 am

They didn't fail. That's nonsense. There are mods to fix this. They left it generic so that modders had a clean base to work with.

And if you're playing on a console, then you're doing it wrong. The game was, is and always will be a PC game with a giant mod sandbox. It only gets ported to consoles to get $$ off of people who want the 'arcade' version of the game.

Failed... huh. Laughable.

» Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:04 am

I can enchant a pair of cloth boots with fortify two-handed but not practicaly anything else.

Uou should really get your facts straight. You can Enchant Necklace, Boots (of any kind), Rings and Gloves with Fortify Two Handed.

Also, you need to be more consistent, you can't whine about game imposed limitations, then recognize why the limitations are in place, then suggest the same limitations in another way.

This thread has already attracted enough problems and reports and I see no reason to keep it open.