No factions make sense for Altmer or Bosmer

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:38 am

I'm not sure, but it might be because of the Civil War and chosing sides. The Nords seem split in half about who they support.
Well yeah but your character can pick a side, just like every other Nord. :S
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:01 pm

There are Altemer and Bosmer outside the Dominion even for those that live within the Dominion not all would believe that the Thalmor regime has good ideals.

Did you read any of what you just quoted?

I KNOW there are Altmer and Bosmer that live outside the dominion. But the vast majority of Khajiit, Altmer and Bosmer ARE loyal to their respective nations. You should not have to play the exception to the rule just to play a certain race. Now, i can understand I'd be the exception to the rule if I were to mod in say, a dremoraas a playable race but when you design a game, you shouldn't treat 3 of the races like they were modded in as an afterthought.

The way it feels to me is if you play a khajiit, bosmer or high elf, it's like playing a dremora. The game does not aknowledge this or allow you to follow a path that is natural for your race/allegiances. The only difference is that if I modded in a dremora, I knew in advance that the game wouldn't acknowledge me as a citizen of the deadlands.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:15 am

Did you read any of what you just quoted?

I KNOW there are Altmer and Bosmer that live outside the dominion. But the vast majority of Khajiit, Altmer and Bosmer ARE loyal to their respective nations. You should not have to play the exception to the rule just to play a certain race. Now, i can understand I'd be the exception to the rule if I were to mod in say, a dremoraas a playable race but when you design a game, you shouldn't treat 3 of the races like they were modded in as an afterthought.

The way it feels to me is if you play a khajiit, bosmer or high elf, it's like playing a dremora. The game does not aknowledge this or allow you to follow a path that is natural for your race/allegiances
That is why I responded would not have responded if I did not read it.

I wiould have liked more options in that regard I just said there are those that live on the outside of their own respective lands, not all of them follow their own customs.
I do wish we could but sadly we cannot.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:07 pm

How are Nords awkward to play as in Skyrim? :S

They're not. At all.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:23 am

Where can I find some reading on the Altmer invading Valenwood? So far all I know is that the Aldmeri Dominion is an alliance between the Bosmer and Altmer
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:08 am

the companions are just mercanaries, the altmer you slay in the college was probably evil and trying to destroy the world. Also teh aldmeri dominion is evil, the thalmor want to destroy the world to become...well nothing. Also i add in every one of these elvish threads "embrace love" Don't forget it or you could end up like the dwemer
How dare you go off and claim we are evil, our goals make sense, our actions make sense, and if you weren't a [CENSORED] drunkard uncivilized Nord whose pathetic life ain't worth more than that of a skeever you might have convinced me to waste my time explaining it all... but no... you wouldn't understand it and would just point and shout "milk-drinker! lol! *burp*" before taking another sip from your bottle of mead.

And what is so wrong with ending up like the Dwemer? They've reached the highest level of existence... nonexistence...

And my Thalmor brethren do not fear! For we shall soon march together upon these Tiber Septim worshipping gong-piles known as the Bethesda forums!

I figured I should post something on topic: Well, you see, Bethesda made skyrim thinking everyone would play the lamer-than-hell guy they used in their trailers... or at the very least a Nord... they also figured you'd be a 12 year old (who isn't even allowed to play the game).
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:10 pm

Where can I find some reading on the Altmer invading Valenwood? So far all I know is that the Aldmeri Dominion is an alliance between the Bosmer and Altmer
Thalmor supporters stages a coup, at least according to UESP. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fourth_Era
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:55 pm

You do realize teh Thalmor hate the Pjissc (or whatever) order. Both are high elves. NOT EVERY high elf is a Thalmor. Faaaaaar from true. Just because you are an elf doesn't mean you agree with the Thalmor at all. I don't see how this is keeping you from joing any of the other guilds...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:55 pm

Bosmer shouldn't be fans of the Dominion. They never really wanted to join it, and they undergo "purges" from the Thalmor(not sure what this is, the wood elf Malborn's family was killed in one though). And obviously Malborn is a Bosmer who opposes the Thalmor.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:25 pm

Regarding Khajiit and Bosmer loyalty to the Thalmor, I think we need to consider the race mentality a bit closer. Neither race are human and assuming they'll think like humans is, in my eyes, a mistake.

Khajiits are hugely disorganized and that has always been their main problem. When they group together and act as one race, you generally don't want to get in their way, but most of the time they're much too busy simply being members of various clans. They have a religion-based respect for the Mane, and for a while he was the ultimate head of state, but now the Thalmor have split Elsweyr into two states and with only one Mane between them, there's no longer a universally respected head of state to organize Khajiits.

In other words, expect Khajiit in general to not care too much what their supposedly "official government" is saying or doing. Obviously there will be some warrior-Khajiit who like the strife that the Thalmor are bringing, but in general I doubt the Khajiit care too much about their "overlords". The moon-thing gave the Thalmor some credit but it's not going to be enough for the wide masses of Khajiit to go to war over, and younger Khajiit who didn't experience the disappearance of the moons are bound to be less impressed by the Thalmor.

As for Bosmer, they're hippie tree-huggers. They don't like war and conflict, they just want to mess about in their damn forest. If the Thalmor want to call themselves "rulers" of Valenwood, fine, who cares? As long as they don't torch the trees or force the Bosmer out of the forest, the Bosmer would rather be enslaved a little bit than kick into a frenzy and go to full scale war. Doesn't mean they'll volunteer in large number to join the front ranks of the Thalmor armies, though.

I'm guessing, by the way, that a wide majority of Bosmer will be ticked off if the Thalmor end-of-the-world includes their forests. That just might lead to the biggest Great Hunt to date. And for all their magely aptitude, I don't think your average Thalmor will have an easy time fireballing the transformed Bosmer with half a dozen frenzied chipmunks hanging from his balls. The Bosmer Great Hunt is sort of an ultimate nuke they use whenever their homeland is in serious peril and I don't think even the fine Thalmor plot armor can withstand it.

All in all, the Bosmer and the Khajiit are not really remotely as aggressive or war-thirsty as the Thalmor high-elves. They don't care to end the world or to eradicate "heretical beliefs" or to enslave all "inferior races". Obviously I'm working with stereotypes so there will be exceptions but I honestly don't think the average Khajiit or Bosmer would necessarily cross the street to pee on a Thalmor on fire. I therefore doesn't bother me that they necessarily side against the Thalmor.

t's a different story with an Altmer, though. As much as there are plenty of Altmer who hate the Thalmor, if I was on the Thalmor blacklist, I'd have a terribly hard time trusting supposedly non-Thalmor Altmers, and yet neither Stormcloaks nor Legion has a problem trusting the player. Various Nords are openly telling what might very well be a Thalmor agent that they're Talos-worshippers and openly plotting against the Thalmor. What the heck? Are these people suicidal or just not terribly bright?
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