No factions make sense for Altmer or Bosmer

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:14 pm

Is anyone else bothered that the aldmeri dominion have a strong presence in Skyrim, but you can never choose your interaction with them? You are forced to kill them as they are played of as evil. Considering the whole supremacist mentality of Mer over Nede (elves over men) in the Dominion it doesn't make sense for a Bosmer or Altmer to join any faction, except the college of Winterhold, but you have to kill an Altmer(sorry if thats a spoiler) for that quest line. I really like that you can destroy the dark brotherhood I wish you could destroy the other guilds in the game also. I don't see why we weren't given the option to just kill of the thieves guild too (I know they are basically useless in their current state though). The companions are the worst of them all. Their founder committed genocide against the Falmer, and caused them to be reduced to their current state.
Skyrim is my first TES game, and has made me read up a lot on the lore of Tamriel, and while playing as a bosmer archer (More of a ranger than the usual sneak archer) it just kinda makes me hate nords.

(off topic) Good job Bethesda for creating all this lore though it's really astounding how much work has been put into creating the world of Nirn.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:47 pm

Not every Elf is part of the Aldmeri Dominion. You can be in any faction you want for various reasons regardless of race.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:31 am

It really depends, you can't play as an elf-loving elf properly due to the lack of ability to side with the Thalmor. It is perfectly plausible to play a more selfish role though for roleplaying purposes. But in general, the elves, khajiit, and nords are really awkward to play as through Skyrim for roleplayers.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:14 pm

Is anyone else bothered that the aldmeri dominion have a strong presence in Skyrim, but you can never choose your interaction with them? You are forced to kill them as they are played of as evil. Considering the whole supremacist mentality of Mer over Nede (elves over men) in the Dominion it doesn't make sense for a Bosmer or Altmer to join any faction, except the college of Winterhold, but you have to kill an Altmer(sorry if thats a spoiler) for that quest line. I really like that you can destroy the dark brotherhood I wish you could destroy the other guilds in the game also. I don't see why we weren't given the option to just kill of the thieves guild too (I know they are basically useless in their current state though). The companions are the worst of them all. Their founder committed genocide against the Falmer, and caused them to be reduced to their current state.
Skyrim is my first TES game, and has made me read up a lot on the lore of Tamriel, and while playing as a bosmer archer (More of a ranger than the usual sneak archer) it just kinda makes me hate nords.

(off topic) Good job Bethesda for creating all this lore though it's really astounding how much work has been put into creating the world of Nirn.

the companions are just mercanaries, the altmer you slay in the college was probably evil and trying to destroy the world.

Also teh aldmeri dominion is evil, the thalmor want to destroy the world to become...well nothing.

Also i add in every one of these elvish threads "embrace love" Don't forget it or you could end up like the dwemer
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:01 pm

Well, seeing as the Thalmor would let the Civil War alone since they simply want it to continue, it would be very little to do. Sure you could hunt some Talos worshippers, but that's very limited even comparred to the short factions.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:35 pm

the companions are just mercanaries, the altmer you slay in the college was probably evil and trying to destroy the world.

Also teh aldmeri dominion is evil, the thalmor want to destroy the world to become...well nothing.

Also i add in every one of these elvish threads "embrace love" Don't forget it or you could end up like the dwemer
Well, they believe that by destrouing the world they will trancend the mortal plain or something so they are not only evil, but possibly very confused as well.

Also: As Y'ffre mentioned: Not all elves support the Thalmor.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:23 pm

Well, they believe that by destrouing the world they will trancend the mortal plain or something so they are not only evil, but possibly very confused as well.

Also: As Y'ffre mentioned: Not all elves support the Thalmor.

naw they think they were gods back in the day, til ol' lorkhan (shor) tricked them into being. They seek to destroy the world to re become gods, or at least thats what i've heard
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:51 pm

naw they think they were gods back in the day, til ol' lorkhan (shor) tricked them into being
I thought they believed they were decendants of gods, but it matters not in the end. For the good of Tamriel the Thalmor must be stopped.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:57 am

most bosmer hate the aldmeri dominion, they aren't stuck up like high elves stereotypicaly are. they are peaceful and valenwood was pretty much taken over, if anything most wood elves still support the empire, support the stormcloaks (rebellion and freedom mentality) or dont give 2 [censored]
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:40 pm

If you play an elf, and walk near one of those Thalmor patrols, they basically call you a pitiful excuse for an elf. Its to exclusive a club, and even if you play as an altmer or a bosmer, you're not good enough to join :P
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:47 pm

But in general, the elves, khajiit, and nords are really awkward to play as through Skyrim for roleplayers.

This...

Elves, like khajiit are Aldmeri dominion races, but the Aldmeri dominion NPCs just treat you like an imperial or nord. Khajiit are supposedly not trusted and barred from the cities... but apparently not you because. Well because... dammit we're lazy shut up. Orcs get allowed into orc strongholds specially, would it have killed them to give Khajiit a similar pre-req quest to get into human settlements?

And of course the Aldmeri Dominion are painted as the generic big bad and Aldmeri Dominion citizens MUST oppose themselves

Add in the fact Khajiit and Bosmer cannot marry other members of their own species and the entire game experience looks very sloppy. Kind've like playing a fallout game with a modded in ghoul race, but the other NPCs don't acknowledge you're a ghoul because it was tacked on and not an actual part of the original game design.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:17 am

My character is a Bosmer who is trying to figure out why the Nords hate Mer. She doesn't feel any allegiance to the Thalmor at all. She has plenty of reasons to hate them, including the fact that they the essentially invaded her country. She feels no restriction in joining any of the other factions.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:25 am

the companions are just mercanaries, the altmer you slay in the college was probably evil and trying to destroy the world.

Also teh aldmeri dominion is evil, the thalmor want to destroy the world to become...well nothing.

Also i add in every one of these elvish threads "embrace love" Don't forget it or you could end up like the dwemer

You trollin
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:07 pm

bethesda for some reason neglects all faction. (and, two worlds1, btw) or, anything somewhat within the realm of, 'they dont like me but they do.' the obvious lack of DEPTH inclusion is starting to become a real sore. (oblivion didn't have the capabilities anyways, so who cares.)

i pray it's not a money thing: that bethesda purposefully denied the obvious greatness of vegas for rewards.
to be unable to give credit where credit is due is a fault that MANY have in real life.

(some still don't even understand the fact that they will svck and make mistakes every frickin day.)

the fact that skyrim is unable to duplicate the fallout3 'grab' 'design house' funtion, is proof enough th

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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:46 pm

Altmer=mages guild

Bosmer=thieves guild

Rather obvious isn't it.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:54 am

You trollin
No, but you are breaking the forum rules. It is actually not allowed to call people trolls.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:56 pm

Altmer=mages guild

Bosmer=thieves guild

Rather obvious isn't it.

No, actually... the mages college quest ultimately ends in you killing two thalmor agents for trying to secure a powerful artifact. And crawling around in sewers stealling stuff and roughing up locals isn't exactly snooty-elf buisness
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:51 am

No, actually... the mages college quest ultimately ends in you killing two thalmor agents for trying to secure a powerful artifact
Which doesnt matter. You think all Altmer like each other? My first post stands. Its rather obvious, and those were even cliche stereotypes. You could easily have a Bosmer mage, or a Altmer warrior, it doesnt matter and can all make sense lore wise.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:18 pm

You trollin
i'm really not, thalmor are evil, not the altmer or bosmer. Thalmor killed off every elf in summerset who didn't support them, and view the bosmer as impure. I'd imagine the khajiit are viewed as little more than solders they can exploit.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:25 pm

No, actually... the mages college quest ultimately ends in you killing two thalmor agents for trying to secure a powerful artifact. And crawling around in sewers stealling stuff and roughing up locals isn't exactly snooty-elf buisness
Well, the Bosmer aren't exactly known for being snooty, that's the Altmer. That + Erandurs response,
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:28 am

It really depends, you can't play as an elf-loving elf properly due to the lack of ability to side with the Thalmor. It is perfectly plausible to play a more selfish role though for roleplaying purposes. But in general, the elves, khajiit, and nords are really awkward to play as through Skyrim for roleplayers.
How are Nords awkward to play as in Skyrim? :S
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:25 pm

Which doesnt matter. You think all Altmer like each other? My first post stands. Its rather obvious, and those were even cliche stereotypes. You could easily have a Bosmer mage, or a Altmer warrior, it doesnt matter and can all make sense lore wise.

I know, people keep telling me that. but it's sounding like high elves are the new Drizzt Do'Urden... high elves are members of the Aldmeri Dominion and support the Thalmor. But not you, you're that one unique rebel who stands up against his own always lawful evil people... just like every other high elf player character

Replace high elf with drow and you've pretty much nailed how Dungeons and Dragons looked when Drow was "the cool kid" racial. You shouldn't have to play an exile/rebel/outcast every time you want to roll a dominion race.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:47 pm

How are Nords awkward to play as in Skyrim? :S
I'm not sure, but it might be because of the Civil War and chosing sides. The Nords seem split in half about who they support.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:05 pm

Nirya and Faralda, neither of which are evil, pro Thalmor as far as we know, nor do they go crazy Aldmeri Jihad
Spoiler
when you merc Arcano.
Just off the top of my head.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:58 am

I know, people keep telling me that. but it's sounding like high elves are the new Drizzt Do'Urden... high elves are members of the Aldmeri Dominion and support the Thalmor. But not you, you're that one unique rebel who stands up against his own always lawful evil people... just like every other high elf player character

Replace high elf with drow and you've pretty much nailed how Dungeons and Dragons looked when Drow was "the cool kid" racial. You shouldn't have to play an exile/rebel/outcast every time you want to roll a dominion race.
There are Altemer and Bosmer outside the Dominion even for those that live within the Dominion not all would believe that the Thalmor regime has good ideals.
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