So, basically, i dont have xbox live and my order is arriving tomorrow from amazon.
how the fcuk am i gonna sort these bugs out?????

I don't know man...heres hoping you get lucky and get a glitch free runthrough, it isn't unheard of. A freeze here and there is the best you can hope for apparently

Hopefully the patch will be out soon. I haven't touched the game since it froze on me.

And if i dont?
i guess i'll just have to get on the phone and scream like an aggressive bi[censored]tch until they send me loads of cool stuff.

I can agree so far with this. My glitch made the game unplayable for me as well. Now I have to start a new game. Woo hoo.

See my thread if you want to see my situation.

So they are released a patch for the PC already but nothing for xbox or ps3?

20 hours played an no major glitches for me.

@Hurlockscale, they are working on patches for 360 and ps3

I'm trying to do the same but damn if it isn't hard. As a game riddled with so many bugs, it's truly hard to put down (for me anyway).

me too bro. hope the developers provide ways for without xbox live players to update the patch manually...

I'll start over, avoid the come fly with me quest and all the other buggy areas until you patch if I need to... I'm sure there's enough in the game to do! I just really want to know if I need to do that or not. Your game will probably be great but it's not yet and a lot of us would really like to know if we need to wait for our saves to work again or restart altogether. Plus an official notice on what to avoid for everyone would be great too. We don't want to flame your message boards, we just want some simple answers to shut us up so we can enjo our game, seriously. (Then some cool items in DLC later would be nice too after the smokes cleared... an uncle sam hat maybe? I already miss Lincoln's...) <~ As long as the DLC wont ruin anything! Had to get that last one in there guys...

MY ADVICE TO EVERYONE IS HAVE MULTIPLE SAVE SLOTS AND SAVE OFTEN. Chances are it will screw up sooner or later until all the bugs are out... who knows what will come when people get further too. I personally am rotating 5 saves 2 hours apart and loading the new one right after to make sure it's good. Do that and you will be golden.

Well I just got slammed by the "missing dlc" bug which has managed to destroy ALL of my saves thus making the suggestion of "saving often and reverting to an old save" absolutely 100% pointless since right now I do not have even one save (1 autosave and 2 manual save slots) that will load without giving the missing dlc error. Like some have said even Fallout 3 ran better then this. The only major issue I ever had with that game was the random freezes but i just made sure i saved often...apparently doing the same thing didnt work for me this time...

Seriously, if I see one more person refer to their save files as "corrupted," I am going to rage and destroy the internet. The entire thing, because this is just stupid. There's nothing wrong with the save file, there's something wrong with the game preventing it from loading some of the data that's in it. The game will be fixed, your save files will work, and you can all stop crying your sissy internet tears.

Don't get me wrong - the first time this happened to me, I was pissed, and I probably put about two hours into trying to troubleshoot it to figure out what was causing the problem. Upon discovering that it was, in fact, a systems bug, and not something I could do anything about, I put the game down for a while and went and did something else. I have had my copy on preorder since January, and couldn't wait to pick it up, but - surprise! There are problems with a new release. Since I am apparently the only one here with any semblance of something else to do with my time, let me share my thoughts.

The game is glitchy. We saw what Fallout 3 was like on release, and it wasn't pretty; this game is based on the same engine, I'm not really surprised to see things cropping up here and there. Yes, in its current state, I would say that the main questline on the 360 is broken to the point of being unplayable. However, I'm sure you can find better things to do with your time while you wait for a patch than yell and cry on the internet that Bethesda has ripped you off, and released something that is "defective". If you're really that pissed about it, go return it.

Are you still here? Then I'm guessing you haven't returned it yet. That probably means that you're just grumpy because you can't play. We all are. Throwing around insults about the quality of Bethesda's publishing operation and Obsidian's developing operation isn't going to make them want to fix it any faster, is it? Would you be more or less inclined to help someone who's screaming in your face and being SUPER obnoxious about it? I get this a lot in my job, and I am going to say that it would make me MUCH less inclined to find a solution for you.

Personally, I'm still here because I want to play the game. I think that, despite the bugs that exist in v1.0, it is still an excellent piece of design and engineering work. The systems upgrades since Fallout 3 in terms of gameplay mechanics, in my opinion, are absolutely terrific, and the setting and plot work they've put into the game is absolutely top-notch. Instead of focusing on all the negatives - and there are bound to be some in an undertaking this large - why don't you focus on the positives and the fun that you've had in the first 5-10 hours of the game instead of deciding that you're not going to have fun with it? Again, I assume that if you're still here (and you haven't just returned it yet) that you're waiting for a patch, and the quality of the time spent waiting is going to be determined entirely by what you choose to do with it. If you sit here and [censored], it's going to svck, and it's not just going to svck for you, but it's going to svck for everyone else that has to read your constant sniveling on this board while looking for real information.

I agree that Bethesda and Obsidian should probably be a little more forthcoming with information regarding their plans for this. To say that a "small group of users" are experiencing some problems with DLC and save files is grossly unfair - I think it's pretty much all of us, depending on how we played out the main storyline. There's a process to this, though, and they have to follow it even if they want to get it out as fast as possible to fix our issues. Personally, I'd like to think that they want to help us out rather than leave us to suffer. I assume they take pride in their work, and want people to enjoy it as much as they did - wouldn't you? So, let's assume, for the time being, that Obsidian are just working hard to make sure that it gets fixed right, the first time, for all of us.

You know, on release i went to look for the game because no store here had it for pre order or even info about it, i thought they weren't giving it much attention but i thought the game would be there on release. I got pretty much disappointed that no store had it, and only one told me the shipment had been delayed for a week. Now, seeing countless of posts and threads about how buggy the game it is, i kinda feel lucky.

Hope they fix all these bugs within a month or F:NV will be pushed behind all the games i had planned to buy after it.

First off the issue with the save file bs is something that would prevent a game from going to print by itself.
Second they have not confirmed that your *now useless* saves will be usable after they patch.
Third FO3 had no where near this amount of game breaking bugs in at launch, i played it endlessly and it rarley froze (the only real bug i encountered, but thats a prob with the engine, same thing happens in ES4)


I have tried numerous times to play this game even going so far as to wipe my HDD still the same issue. Four different attempts to play the game from the begining always ends in all of my saves becoming useless. I just love the same old "just revert to an older save" tip its pointless when all of your saves are useless. I am quite sick of this [censored], returning game tommorow.

Also, i wont be buying anything that obsidian has its name attached to again, not after this third failure. (kotor2 and Alpha protocal being the first 2)

By the way if anyone wants some usefull info, DO NOT BUY THE GAME its a waste of your money and your time.

Edited to finish half-thoughts >.>

Just to let all of you know i tried to return it today, and in gamestop they told me "sorry we can't make a refund because the game seal is broken, we can change you for the same product and if the problems persist then your drive is malfunctioning."

that svcks i can't get a refund and i can't play the game.

What really bothers me (other than the numerous bugs I personally have encountered) is the fact I really enjoy the game that I am actually able to play, even more than fallout 3. Once this patch comes out, this is definite game of the year material for me; that is, if they fix all the big problems.

I don't know if this will help anyone because of all the variation amongst the bugs. I noticed that sometimes you can access the 'corrupt' files. One way that worked for me was to exit the Load menu and re-enter it. This only worked once for me when it froze the first time. But the next solution as proved useful several times. While in the Load menu I selected where I took my saves from and reloaded up the hard drive from there which actually reverted my saves to usable again. It would seem that selecting your storage device and selecting the one that you're already using can sometimes fix the issue. When I did that I loaded up the fixed file and it froze while loading. I tried again and then it gave me a disc unreadable [yes I get disc unreadables from time to time on this game (thrice) and there is nothing wrong with the disc, the problem is with the game itself] instead of the DLC pop-up. The third time I tried loading the game is locked up (not froze) at the black screen before loading up the copyrights page. Lastly the fourth time it was successful of which then I fast traveled back to where I was planning to go, deleted all my saves except my auto-save and saved new ones in all new empty slots and got off for the night (I did that twice with the deletion of all save files and replacement of new ones and that did seem to stave off the next time I got a screw up for about five hours). If that helps anyone I have happy to of helped and if it doesn't then I hope you find a better solution. Until then I'm staying off the game until it is fixed because I fear of a problem I won't be able to get around. I also have to agree that it is terrible that this game got released like this but don't blame Bethesda because they didn't develop this; blame Obsidian. I am very distraught. More disappointed than angry because some companies are getting lazy and are shipping rushed, sloppy, and/or unfinished software. Or this could actually be an issue completely unknown to Obsidian and there may actually be a mass complication with the disc as they were made out of country. As for me, I blame it a little on both because companies are getting the reputations for having shoddy products and you never know what could have happened on the assembly line when the discs were being made and when the copy transfers were being performed. If there is even just one single person out there that is not having any difficulties with the game at all could point towards bad disc or transfer performance. I still love the Fallout universe and Fallout New Vegas is still awesome but I'm playing it safe and putting my disc on the shelf until that patch is out and fixes anything. I wish luck to all on there problems and I wish luck to whoever is getting this patch out as soon as possible.

Change it for the new same product. Leave store, return there 2 days later, with that new product, that you _didn't_ open. And then get a refund?

exchange the game, open it, exchange and repeat intill all their "new" games are opened or they hate you.

Mines mostly bug free other than the severe frame rate drops in certain areas and freezes. I have however fell into a rock on a cliff side and had to kill my self to get out as well as other rocks not quite touching the ground next to the river by the dam.

Well, to follow up, couldn't resist playing-- only put a few hours in last night, but not too many problems, very enjoyable game so far. I did have some enemies stuck in the landscape-- particularly radscorpions on/near the railroad tracks; they all seemed to fall down a bit below the ground level. Also had a few neutral characters turn hostile for no apparent reason or action on my part... standing there friendly one second, to trying to off me the next. I love the atmosphere of the game; very good world to explore.

I just want to know what kind of issues you are all having. I am playing on the Xbox 360 Slim console, and it has been running just fine for me.

I had the same problem with the bark scorpions near the train tracks.

Additionally - I've read through a lot of posts on this forum and I haven't seen anyone mention it yet - I had a problem with one of the NPCs I was supposed to talk to in Primm. When I left the hotel and went back to the casino to talk to the deputy, I found him half hanging out of the ceiling, twitching and convulsing everywhere. It was definitely not part of the game, that's for sure.

I also had a problem with an NPC attacking me out of nowhere and I know it's not because of my faction or anything. It happened right before I had the game save bug, I had Harland (the ghoul in the basemant) randomly become an enemy and start attacking me even after I'd had a conversation with him and we were on good terms.

The game also froze on me twice.

I mean, I'm not necessarily angry about all these bugs and glitches because I realize that mistakes happen and it's my understanding that they will be fixed so I'm not going to complain. I'm sure eventually I'll be able to play...mostly I just wanted to see if anyone else had that bug with the deputy in Primm.

I too will be returning my copy. I'm really disappointed with the stance developers have been taking recently with releasing games that seem to have more and more technical issues than ever. New Vegas just isn't playable in the state it's in. There are so many game breaking bugs and glitches that it's outright reprehensible.

I suppose I should have known better when I discovered Obsidian was developing it, after the way KOTR 2 was handled. Another rushed-for-the-holiday-season release. Big surprise.

I was in The Strip and then my companions, boone and rex, disappeared. I can still hear rex barking, still have the perks for both companions, and people still comment on rex being a mechanical dog. I looked for them for over an hour to make sure I didn't leave them anywhere and no luck. Besides that, the biggest pain is the lagging and loading times getting progressively worse the longer you play. Then after 4-5 hours it freezes and isn't playable. I took an hour break and tried it and its fine. Then the process repeats itself. On the other hand I shouldn't be playing 4-5 hours straight anyway. Overall the game is great. I'm glad I bought it and after all the patches come out, the game will be even better. :fallout: