here is a link explaining False Advertising

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/False+Advertising

1080i is 720p

Dont worry, Betheada are going to fix it with patches. They are just too professional

i just noticed that, i thought the limit was 720?

No its going to be 2160p after the 3.0 patch

i hear a lot of people saying that on these forums, I'm not sure how this "upscaling" crap started, but the actual difference between 1080i and 1080p is the way it displays the image on screen. the "i" is for interlaced, so it alternates at displaying the "rows" flickering back and forth, and the "p" is for progressive scan, and displays the entire screen at once.

so no 1080i is not 720p in any way shape or form. (it can be of course, just as a 1080p resolution may also just be upscaled from 720p... I'll explain below)

The simple fact that one is progressive and one is interlaced should be enough to tell you that they are not the same thing.

I think the misconception started from people misunderstanding how certain games "cheat" to get a 1080 resolution and upscale, which has nothing to do with your TV displaying at 1080i or 1080p.

When I put GTA 4 in 1080 p, its upscaled, and not actually in 1080 resolution. The "p" or the "i" doesn't make a difference in whether its upscaled or not, that's jsut how its sending and displaying the image to your screen. Its the game doing the upscaling. The TV's can force a way to upscale as well, which could result in a funny looking image, or blank screen. So you can end up playing a 720p game, and have your TV displaying 1080p

I hope that clears up any ignorance in what the resolutions mean.

the main point is, the back of the box says 1080i. The game does not support 1080i, its reverts to 480p when you try to switch. This is in fact, simple false advertising. Its nothing major, but it's still false advertising. Simply being; what's advertized on the back of the box... is false. :shifty:

G'day !

I'm playing it right now at 480p. I set my tv and PS3 for 1080i but the game won't run higher than 720p. We actually think they can fix the lag issue when they couldn't even get the info on the back on the case right. lmfao

when I had a bought my first flat screen it was what I was told a 1080p from walmart, I borrowed my brothers ps3 and couldn't get it to display then I phoned the manufacture of the t.v. and they told me I'd have to switch it to 720p which is 1080i, 1080i and 720p are effectively the same. Also says on google. Also my new samsung 1080p switches to 720 as soon as a ps3 games on usually unless its disgaea 4 cause that is in 1080p.

Well when I change channels some are in 720p and some are in 1080i as comcast doesn't seem to use 1080p and I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080i 1080i looks more defined to me but that's just me maybe.

I don't notice any difference either not until I got a 60hz 1080p Samsung, replacing our older 1080p, the new one sharper and quicker.

:facepalm: really? again?

1080 i and 720p are not only 2 different resolutions, they are ALSO two different ways of the image being sent to your screen. They are COMPLETELY different.

When someone tells you, 720p is 1080i, they are talking about the image being upscaled. But that is NOT exclusive to all 1080i resolutions. As I just explained the ONLY way for GTA 4 to upscale, is to upscale to 1080 P

1080 P

GTA 4 up-scales from 720p to 1080 P. But that does NOT mean all 1080p resolutions are "effectively" just 720p. Just as 1080i is not "effectively" 720p.

Is this making sense to you yet?

A specific game upscaling a lower resoltuion to a higher res on on your TV, does not makes those 2 resolutions universally the same.

If I display something in 1080i on my flatscreen, that SUPPORTS 1080i. it is in fact DISPLAYING in the proper 1920 by 1080 resolution and sending the image to my screen INTERLACED. not some upscaled 720 resolution. Its only upscaled when what I'm viewing does not support 1080i. But Skyrim claims to support 1080i... Unscaled or not, it claims to support it.

Just as Final Fantasy 13 on PS3 was "1080p", and would run as such, but the native resolution of the game was actually 720p, with the game upscaled. Whether it's an "i" or a "p" following the resolution is not what decides if its upscaled or not. Mkay?

Does this makes sense yet, or do I need to explain the same thing in a different way?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_720p_and_1080i

if that helps

they falsely advertised on more thne just that.... if you know what i mean..

Are you under the impression that the article explains anything any differently?

720p>1080i

1080i is an old CRT garbage resolution. Flat screens have native p resolution, so 720p is the best PS3 can do for 99% of games. So many people waste their time running 1080i on 1080p sets, pointless.

The game RUNS NATIVE at 720p, run the game natively for best results. Even the Naughty Dog Uncharted Devs explained this a few years ago as to why 720p is far better than gimp 1080i on the PS3

1080i is 1920 X 1080 60hz interlaced 60 fields per second 30 Frames per second
1080p is 1920 X 1080 30hz progressive 30 fields per second 30 Frames per second
720p is 1280 X 720 60hz progressive 60 fields per second 60 Frames per second

When comparing 720p to 1080i you should compare frames not fields.
A 1080i Frame is 2.07 million pixels you get 30 per second. A 720p Frame & Field is 0.92 million pixels you get 60 per second. Even a 1080i Field is 1.04 million pixels. But 720p updates every pixel on screen every 1/60 of a second. From an image quality point of view 1080i wins. From an update point of view 720p wins.
But there is a big problem with interlacing.For 1080i a field is made by taking a frame and sending half the information, every other line. Then sending the other half of frame in the next field. This can cause combing. If there is a large amount of change on a high contrast edge in the frame you will see the interlaced lines. Comb filters pretty much eliminate this problem by blending the frames. But the Comb filters causes motion blur.

Here is all the info you need.

no i didn't disagree anywhere to what you said o.O

ROFL that is not "all the info you need" by any stretch. None of that is even specific to the PS3 or gaming. It's a generic high level description of the resolutions.

The main point is the game runs NATIVE in 720p so this "from an image quality point of view, 1080i wins" is *completely wrong*.

The best "image quality" for a PS3 game that runs native at 720p is to display NATIVE at 720p. The image quality won't magically get better by SCALING to 1080i then the TV scaling again to get to 1080p. That's a LOWER image quality.

Furthermore the way PS3 does 1080i/1080p scaling is a bogus half scale, it's not even a full 1080 scale. In other words it is NOT 1920 X 1080 but usually something less like what is it, 960x1080

But whatever, people don't even understand it and just thing 1080 is better even tho developers themselves have explained in detail that it's not, for the PS3 720p is the best you can get.

Yes and for people like me who have older HDTVs that only display Hi Def images in 1080i, this is worse than an arrow in the knee. I have ranted about this in a couple places on these forums. Awesome standard def graphics are not awesome.

When did they advertise 1080i?

You guys realize that neither the Xbox 360 nor the PS3 can actually render 1080 resolutions right?

It says 1080i is the native resolution right on the box...and yes, the PS3 is capable of displaying 1080i

It's one of the reasons why I bought this broke ass game

No it's not

No it's not what? If you mean it isn't capable of 1080i then that is so obviously stupid on your part that I'm done with this conversation.

No it's not capable of rendering games at a 1080 resolution.

While the GPU is certainly powerful enough to display an image that large, it's not powerful to render a modern game at that resolution.

Just look up the RSX technical specs if you don't believe me.

Yeah I understand all that. But the game should upscale the 720p image to 1080i like Uncharted does. I was surprised to see 1080i as the main resolution on the back of the box. Bottom line is, with my older TV, I have no choice but to play the game in 480p which blows.