Forsworn Briarhearts; Bethesda, you made me sick to my stoma : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:54 pm

I thought this thread was going to be about the White Phial quest being bugged. I've had that quest in my log for weeks now, can't finish it ><

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:13 am

Does the game actually go into debth why they have them and what it's for. I noticed it right away but I just don't understand the purpose

All I could figure out from the game scenery is that the Hagravens perform some kind of ritual where they replace the heart with one of them. You see plenty of transition stage Briarhearts throughout the Forsworn areas. I think I remember one even getting off the table so he could fight me.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:55 pm

Wait, I never really paid much attention to them. Can you actually see their open chest cavity with the heart in it or something?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:33 am

You can see it with their heart out of it.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:52 pm

You can see it with their heart out of it.

So their heart is not in their chest at all? Like not even exposed to air? Where is it then?

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:05 pm

It's an STD they get from 'comforting' hagravens.

Now that is sicker then the Briarheart itself..... :rofl:

Good One!!! LOLLOLLOL

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:21 pm

There is a book in game that explains why they are that way.

I remember when the first one I met handed me my butt on a plate.

Now I have a dresser with almost 200 sets of forsworn armor in it.

Oh vengeance is mine!

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:01 pm

So why is this even sickening in the first place? I am confused. >.<

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:31 am

I liked the look of it, seemed very evil xD

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:57 pm

There is a book in game that explains why they are that way.

Right, couldn't quite remember if it was related, but checking on the Imperial library it's a ritual once performed on Red Eagle.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-legend-red-eagle

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:34 pm

I think they are one of the most interresting enemies due to this(a well as they are one of the stronger so yay, epic battle), and I think it shows just how much they have sacrifieced to take back their home.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:35 am

Right, couldn't quite remember if it was related, but checking on the Imperial library it's a ritual once performed on Red Eagle.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/skyrim-legend-red-eagle

Yep, that was the book. I was looking through the list trying to remember which it was.

Funny how things are explained in the books. I guess I'm one of the few that actually reads them when I pick up a new one.

The Wolf Queen ones are fun to read also, gives you some background on one of the quests you might stumble on.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:43 pm

So their heart is not in their chest at all? Like not even exposed to air? Where is it then?

That item with the word "heart" in it is their heart

So, when you loot 'em, you actually physically remove their heart from their body. Talk about makeshift heart surgeon

I noticed it not too long ago. I have always thought it's weird they bear the same name as an item, but I thought it's just a title. And then I loot one's heart and boy is that a good touch

It doesn't make me sick, though. I ate a human heart with level 3 Experimenter perk :shrug:

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:01 pm

WTF are you babbling about?

honestly. please explain....

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:33 am

That item with the word "heart" in it is their heart

So, when you loot 'em, you actually physically remove their heart from their body. Talk about makeshift heart surgeon

Yeah, but is there actually some physical thing showing their heart or something while they're alive, or is it just you can loot an item called "Briar Heart"?

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:35 pm

Yeah, but is there actually some physical thing showing their heart or something while they're alive, or is it just you can loot an item called "Briar Heart"?

Their chest will only open when you loot the item, so no, nothing indicates that the item is their heart until you see it yourself.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:33 pm

Yeah, but is there actually some physical thing showing their heart or something while they're alive, or is it just you can loot an item called "Briar Heart"?

You see the heart stitched into their chests while they're alive.

Once you remove the heart, it's an empty cavity.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:28 pm

Necromancer dungeons in Oblivion made me sick to my heart, And I LOVED it.

Briar Hearts making you sick? Really? Stop snorting that moon sugar,

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:28 am

Oh, hahaha, I need to look at those guys more closely. I always assumed the briar heart was a little symbolic plant thing, and that they had tattoos.

Huh, that's awesome detail though!

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:04 pm

All I could figure out from the game scenery is that the Hagravens perform some kind of ritual where they replace the heart with one of them. You see plenty of transition stage Briarhearts throughout the Forsworn areas. I think I remember one even getting off the table so he could fight me.

So their heart is not in their chest at all? Like not even exposed to air? Where is it then?

If you go to the Bard's Leap Summit location. Just West (I think it is part of the ruin Lost Valley Redoubt) of there is a Dragon Wall where if you sneak up you can see the Hagraven peforming the ritual that makes a Briarheart. Well as much as you can see using the default game animations rather then a proper animation.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:29 pm

I looted those hearts forever before I finally noticed a hole in the chest of one and put 2 and 2 together. I didn't have a sickening moment tho more like a "well that's interesting"

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:47 pm

I think they are one of the most interresting enemies due to this(a well as they are one of the stronger so yay, epic battle), and I think it shows just how much they have sacrifieced to take back their home.

Indeed.

Oh how nice it would have been to be able to get on their good side (or some of their good sides). Forsworn for DLC faction!

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:50 pm

Naw, not really. I kinda like the "Olde Tyme Magick" they put into the game. Gives the Forsworn more depth.

Oh, by the way,

Spoiler

If you sneak up and successfully pickpocket a Briarheart's Briar Heart, they will insta-die.

I guess its sort of a pocket.. *bleeh!*

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:17 pm

I think out of everything in the game the forsworn are the funnest fights.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:51 pm

I have a question for the folks who were grossed out by this. How do you feel about having to eat one to find it's alchemical properties?