The worst Bethesda made ever. I understand - quake 2 was something in that time, now they are completely dead and you shoul not try to reanimate them with trying to make fallout halflife quake doom hibrid.
Bethesda - be so kind - please - make something you do better as others - eg Oblivion morrowind skyrim, at least Fallout series -, but do not mess with ID.
This is borring blody messy armagedon shooter without any meaningin it. Not worth just a percent of amount it have been sold.

So...just because you don't like the game means that no one else should?

Personally, with the exception of the ending, I loved this game. It suits my style of playing, and I thought it was well done for the type of game it is. Maybe not a 10 out of 10, but it was more compelling, for me, then the repetitive COD series.

This game was made only by idSoftware, kid, Bethesda simply published it, like book publishers publish books.
If you don't like this game, you have no one but id to blame (every time some ignorant says ID it makes me twitch).

Anyway as far as how good the game is, everyone thinks different, this game is like 50/50, some people like it some don't, some people hate it and some people love it.

But thanks for sharing your opinion. Next time, though, try expanding on what it is you don't like about it

LOL, another RPG critic of mindless shooters pissed off because he had no clue what he was buying. Like Vynzent points out, Bethesda did not make the game and, I would add, mindless shooters are still hugely popular whether you personally like them or not.

What? I don't even...

Seriously, there is no need to make ANOTHER thread about this.... Get your facts straight before you try and bash Bethesda...

id did a great job on rage. Not sure what you were expecting?

i believe Rage is a great game so i dont know what's your problem buddy.

P.S why would you bother making a account just to talk smack about something you have no idea about?

Right!


I've seen this behaviour on many game related forums before.
I'm starting to wonder who these people are that do this.
Members of another game company who get extra payments to ruin reputation and profit of a competitor?

could be right

The part I don't get is not so much that these people go to the bother of doing it, but that it becomes such a huge matter of all-consuming importance for them. It's only a game FFS.

still sickens me

I'm not into conspiracy theories but i get the impression that this is not just related to people taking their hobby too seriously.

What's interesting with these kind of posts is that the formulation is pretty much always the same like "i just wanted to tell you that this game svcks, so don't buy it" or at least very similar.
And in most cases the OPs don't even react to any comments given by others or they don't post anything else afterwards.

My personal impression is that these type of posts severly increase in numbers lately.
I'm active in the internet for almost two decades now and i haven't noticed this phenomenon in that intensity before.
Usually people want to communicate, which involves some kind of opinion exchange, or they want to team up with like-minded people.
That would be the normal social behaviour for humans. But this behaviour is often completely absent in these types of posts.

I know that there are people being paid for making positive comments on products in internet shops like Amazon and the likes as some kind of covert advertising.
This may be something similar.

Bethesda has nothing to do with it - to simplify it, other than the label on the box and making commercials/trailers. (administrative/publishing stuff)

i really liked rage....a 100 hour game would have been nice but thats not what rage is

You're not the only one.

There has been quite a consistency with many of the attacks since launch day, and they have tended to follow a fairly predictable pattern, with - in many cases - almost identical wording used in different sources. There have also been not just a few cases of outright lies.

Not saying anything else aside from the fact that it's odd.

Rubbish, it's a conspiracy!

I don't know why, but everyone seemed to can this game when it came out, even though before release it over 20 awards So I reckon it was all to make noise for... I have no idea what reason. That's what is stumping me.

It's not a great game. It was expensive and many people did not like it, they complained. What is so hard to understand?

Again...that's an opinion.

For many people it is a great game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't great for someone else.

I think the proportion of people complaining online are from those who had performance issues, or thought it was supposed to be some sort of pure RPG. I'm sure there are a lot of people who had no problems, and never bothered going online to sing the games praises.

yeah I enjoyed the game! was fuN! just wishing there were some new DLC's

People always complain! look at the skyrim forum! hey? I just saw same complaining at the Mass Effect 3 game! Also complaining. you have always people who just dont take the game as it is! I always enjoy the ride! even if it comes with a couple bumps..

Of course it's not a great game. Absolutely no argument there. Rage. Is. Not. A. Great. Game.

It's not a crap game either, of course.

It's a fine game, it's above average, it's reasonably solid, it falls down in some places but succeeds in others. It has it's flaws, it has it's strong points.

Lol, well all is wrong because all here is opinion
Rage is not a great game? That is an opinion. Rage is a great game? Also opinion.

Everything is in perspective, because to different people it is different things that make a great game. In Rage I was looking for a shooter that gets to the point, one with added awesome stuff (extensive artilery), and no need for long and boring pvssyr. I wasn't looking for open world, as I don't care for it, and I wasn't looking for an RPG with a deep story. The only thing that keeps Rage from being a great game in my eyes is the huge gaps, things that were tied together poorly because of the lack of content thus making it just a good game.

But yeah, had the game had all that it showed on its trailers (open world and story not being something they ever showed), I would've considered it a great game. As for people who didn't see all the trailers and cut content, I am sure to them it is in fact, a great game. Unless of course, they thought it'd be an RPG, which is kinda sad considering all the gameplay vids and interviews.

If you dislike Rage that's fine with me and is, as almost all things in life, a question of taste and preference.

But you argue about what you dislike like a real human being and you react to posts and opinions of others.
It's not that you made exactly 1 troll post "that Rage svcks" and vanish afterwards.
And that's my point:

In addition to real world (often justified) criticism towards a product, these single troll posts dramatically increase in numbers.

And they always follow the same pattern: Declare a product as to be total crap, try to missionize all others to not buy it and than vanish.

That might be reasonable with someone who bought a coffee machine and quickly posts his opinion about it, but in a constantly evolving product like a software of some kind that is usually enhanced via patches, i would expect anyone that has problems with it to make suggestions for optimizing or at least explain his dislike in depth.

I can understand that the name "Bethesda" printed on the cover of a game might arouse false expectations concerning the type of gameplay with someone who never or rarely played an id soft game.
But when looking at all the awards that Rage got in conjunction with my personal experience when playing this game, the only really important point of criticism i can accept is the OpenGL driver problem that plagues pc users.

Rage is a very good game for what it is.
I've seen so many bad games in terms of game design and/or code solidity over the years that still sold millions of copies, i find the profit jeopardizing outcry about a quite polished product like Rage somewhat strange.

Sorry, but what exactly does that last part of your statement mean? The way I see it, either Rage is a very good game or it isn't. I enjoyed the game considerably but in my opinion it has too many flaws (mostly in the narrative) to be called "great."

I do agree with you though in that Rage is quite polished. I've seen much rougher games garner more praise than Rage in the past (many of Bethesda's Elder Scrolls games come to mind).

There were a few other points they all had in common.

"N64-level graphics" was an early one. The exact ancient technology varied a little, and it may sometimes have been an ancient game, but the comparison itself was quite consistent.
"Megatexture = megafail(ure)" used to happen quite a lot.
Posting screenshots of relatively open Doom 3 scenes compared to Rage with your face rammed into a wall, and then trying to use them as some kind of evidence that it's a step backwards, was common shortly after release.
As was posting screenshots of a sikkmodded Doom 3 and trying to use that as evidence of the same.

The whole "John Carmack is a washed-up has-been who is out of touch with modern ideas" thing is, interestingly, not new. I've been going through old usenet archives recently for some research, and came across occurrances of it dating back to at least as early as 1998. At the height of the OpenGL/Direct3D wars it was reasonably common for a Direct3D evangelist or two to pop up and come out with that one.