I really like how Bethesda has incorporated some of the features that they have through patches and updates. I'm most excited for the mounted combat. That is long overdue. But it got me thinking. The one thing I've always wanted above all else is a hardcoe or survival mode that requires the player to eat, drink and sleep. I'm wondering if that would be a possibility in a future update. Since Bethesda has been releasing these updates adding things that people have been asking for I suppose its not out of the realm of possibilities.

hardcoe mode is what MADE Fallout New Vegas for me. For people who either want a challenge or immersion it's amazing. I never felt more entrenched in a game world than I did wandering the wastes, making money for a REAL reason: to feed myself, to get water, to find shelter, and to get awesome weapons in order to accomplish that. It makes money so much more useful and interesting. When low on money or stranded somewhere, I'd have to hunt or raid some little settlement if I got desperate. Roleplaying became natural and extremely fun.

If Skyrim adds this option, I hope they'll improve upon it even more. Giving us options about whether you want "full hardcoe mode" or just certain aspects of it, and you can toggle each feature on and off. I really hope they add this. .....Like....really

No doubt. I've always wanted this option and New Vegas (although it was very simple) was perfect for me. I was REALLY hoping that Skyrim had this feature since we had the option to cook food. The first time I heard that we could cook our own food I thought that a hardcoe/survival mode was in for sure. Well, I was wrong. Eating food for health just seems very silly to me. I love to role play in this game and I have a difficult time imagining that, during the middle of a battle, I break out a piece of cooked salmon and eat it. Really dumb in my opinion. I impose rules on myself such as I cannot even drink health potions during battle. Unless I run away or hide behind something where I could realistically get out a potion and drink it. I eat every day and sleep at night (typically) as it is in the game but having some system, as simple as it might be, would make this game even better for me.

You know, I always played New Vegas with hardcoe mode. It made for a better challenge. Not the eating, drinking and sleeping, mind you. That part was a joke. And I consider it little more than inane upkeep and uninteresting.

No, I used it for the ammo weight and it's affect on healing. Those are things Skyrim could use. If only it had limb crippling...

I always chuckle to myself when I see eating, drinking and sleeping referred to as hard core. Here I thought those aspects of my everyday life were mundane....who knew I was living the hardcoe life.


Fighting dragons - routine
Eating three square meals a day - hardcoe

Haha. That is funny.

I always add the "survival" term too.

This, the health benefit is so minute as to not be worth carrying the food in the first place. Whats the point of a whole system dedicated to a useless set of items? You'd get more benefit slapping the enemy with said salmon

I too would like to see a hardcoe mode, and greatly enjoyed its inclusion in FO:NV. It gave a whole ream of otherwise pointless clutter a reason to actually be included and considered.

Which is why I was so surprised when Bethesda said that there was not a hardcoe/survival mode. I thought that this system of cooking was going to be for that reason. I remember asking whether or not a hardcoe/survival mode was in the game about a million times in all of the Q&A's before the game was released. It was the one thing that I was really hoping for. I was extremely disappointed when I found out the option did not make the cut. It seems like they could have simply taken the code from New Vegas and put it in Skyrim. That's all I was ever asking for. Nothing intricate (although a more detailed system would have been nice). I'm not going to hold my breath on an update including this, especially since it would just be an option and not something that everyone would use. I guess I'll just have to keep role-playing it. Either that or buy a new computer and get the mod for it.

i would like hardcoe mode too.

yes, I would like this to be in the game. Maybe if u get hit, u have to use a linen wrap to close the wound? Make it so that if u dont sleep, ur vision will become blurry, or ur stamina and health will drop quicker. The diseases would require treatment, not just going to a temple. Also, wouldn't we have to feed our followers, wives, pets? They could implement frostbite, which would require you to wear hide or heavy armor.

Yes, I found that this feature made New Vegas a more immersive game for me. I was a bit disappointed that Bethesda did not include it in Skyrim, for that reason. I played New Vegas in the months immediately prior to Skyrim's release, so when I first picked up Skyrim it felt slightly empty for lack of those features (though Skyrim makes up for that in other ways). I really enjoy Skyrim, and I've played more hours now than I ever did on New Vegas, and I do feel that these options would make the game more enjoyable for me.

Yeah, snap. Its not as if it made FO:NV intolerably hard.

I think the blame for that, if laid anywhere, would be laid at the door of the Sierra Madre.

For the record, I actually enjoyed that DLC. I liked the dawning sense of how I was going to have to treat it like Resi. My warriors pride was well and truly swallowed...

EDIT: Must remove the double quote of doooooooooom

Eating sleeping and drinking was dumb and in no way hardcoe to me since there was zero chance of not been able to find enough supplies, the features which actually made it more difficult was more items having weight and stimpacks healing over time. Skyrim could make potions heal over time and make 0 weight items weigh at least 0.1.

You can already eat drink and sleep on skyrim if you chose to do so without a thirst meter telling you to.... you cant pretend to fight on horseback but you will be able to do so soon - features like that will be more appreciated.

For me it just added to the immersion. I liked actually having to eat and drink things. And sleep too.

I like the frostbite idea. There should be warm cloaks / scarves or something similar to wear over your armor to prevent it. Also, regarding food: the cooking system should be more accessible and there should be more options. I say this so that people wont go around eatiing raw food all the time. I like sushi as much as the next guy, but i we just pull a salmon out of the water and eat it whole there should he a chance of getting an illness. Speaking of illnesses, there should be more diseases. Not higher CHANCES of getting diseases, God no, but more variety. Morrowind and Oblivion had far more diseases, and Morrowind even had descriptions for what each does to you so you can roleplay its effects. They seem like an afterthought in Skyrim

Lol I posted the exact same topic earlier and alot of people didnt want it...

I too want a "hardcoe" mode. Well more of a survival really but seriously they need to add survivability to the cold. We have to keep ourselves from getting hyperthermia when traveling up north to the frozen wastes. Im sick of just running around doing dungeons, quests and collecting useless loot all day. I want to worry about my characters basic needs not just his financies.

It's not just about making it harder, it's about realism and immersion. Some of us like to roleplay, you know?

A fun http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=11163.

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svcks to be you?

Nah. If I had a computer and downloaded mods something would go wrong. Its always been my luck. Also the temptation to cheat using console commands is not there on the Xbox.

I somewhat agree. Eating/sleeping/drinking does not equal hardcoe. You want hardcoe gameplay? Go play the Realm of Arkania games.

I wanted to add that what some of you are describing is a survival mode. There is a difference between hardcoe and survival.

*Sigh* hardcoe is just what it was called in New Vegas. Call it "immersion" mode if thats better.

Heh, but that's the thing, it really doesn't mean "hard." It's a realism mode. I'm all for it, if it's optional.

Some aspects of FNV's hardcoe mode are already present in Skyrim, such as companions being non-essential. Seems like others could have been easily added in.

Food is not for health, BTW- its advantage in Skyrim is stamina boost.

I can survive a week with a bag full of skooma!