Yeah the fact that it's the main quest is what really gets to me, if it were a side quest I could deal with it, but the main quest?

You misread him. Not everybody gets this bug. Obviously if it affected every single player, Beth would make it a priority.

He's saying that I made the glitch up because he hasnt heard of it before, all he has to do is type it into Google like I asked him to and he'll find many other players with this issue. Also, Bethesda's support team told me themselves that they are working on fixing the issue and it would be fixed in the next patch, that was two patches ago.

1. Stop saying the game was not tested. The game WAS tested as much as humanly possible.

Think about it. As a player, you spend 100+ hours in the game and still have a lot to do. How in the hell do you expect Bethesda to test hundreds of hours of content, multiple times, and expect them to find every freaking bug?

Simple. You cant. You are looking at months, if not years of required testing just to ensure the game is more or less bug free. But with time constraints and budget limitations, there is only so much reasonable testing they can do.

2. Stop assuming that just because Bethesda made a lot of money on skyrim, they will forget about it and move on. Quite the contrary, because with having made so much money, they can afford to spend MORE time working on fixing issues in the game.

3. The release time was less then ideal, because it was just before thanksgiving and now we are nearing christmas. They really havnt had much time in the office to spend working on patches. The fact that they got 2 out is amazing as it is. But lets not forget there is still 1.4, and patched for each DLC they release, so there are many opportunities for them to get some fixes out there.

1.4 will be out in early january. If it doesn't fix most, if not all the remaining major issues, then I see no reason why complaining is unreasonable. Personally, however, Ive not seen 99% of the issues others have been experiencing, so I am happy with the game. I am unhappy about the delay of the CK for the silly Steam Workshop...

I'd be more inclined to think they saw the word "bug/glitch" in your email, and sent you back a template stating they're fixing it, so that you sit and wait for a month, when it's apparent they're not.

I understand they can't squash every bug, I am experienced with RPGs, BUT a serious main quest bug? The main quest should be tested more than anything, they need to test every single thing that could go wrong with the main quest, they obviously did not. Many people are having the exact same issue as me, it's not a minority of players who are having issues with this'. This is a major bug and I don't know how it slipped by them.

The email responded to exactly what I said directly, it was not automated.

I think he means they basically went:

*sigh* "This again??" *To self: we've heard the last thousand who ripped our heads off, so can everyone shut up and give us some time to fix as many things as we can for the January patch? When will someone read the announcement we made in the forum weeks ago on 1.4?*......"It will be a part of a patch we are currently working on."

As annoyed as the user may be, you have to realize how much more annoyed Bethesda may be at not just missing a bug (if they take that much pride in their work to go "Son of a *****! Should have caught that!") but also having hundreds of e-mails and threads being addressed to them, most of which are berating and chastizing them for said bug. Not to mention saying "We're working on it" and giving a release date for when that work is done while, in the mean time, they're still getting berated because people can't read. Then there are the ones who politely address the issue, which is one in a million because most people (at least, in my experience in customer service) are excessively self-entitled to the point where it would seem like the crown jewels is far below the kind of things they "deserve". Then those same people wonder why they get crap service and that feeling like they're just being rushed out the door...it's because they are since no one really wants to deal with their crap. This is more in-general, not directed at anyone specific.

Anyway (sorry about the rant), they did say a bit after 1.2 that 1.4 will be focusing on the quest bugs and, unless I'm mistaken or misread, that they worked on 1.3 while working on 1.4 and are going to continue until 1.4 is released in early January.

hey man picture this, you play skyrim all nice and when you reach 75 hours it crashes every 30 minutes,100 hours and you cant play unless you restart. wouldn't like that now would you.

Thats what 95% of everyone on the ps3 subfourms is complaining about. Constant freezes after 60 hours, im not asking to test for years, i dont care about broken quests but when YOU CANT FINISH THE GAME and play for more then 100 hours is [censored].

and hey you know what makes it even worse they release 2 patches afterwards that does nothing to fix the problem, oh but i could put books on my shelve now wow that game breaking descision wtf would I do if i couldn't put book on my shelve hmmm?

Your playing it on pc most likely and i hope you do not have to go trought the [censored] that we have to go trough, and that why you think its so perfect but for ps3 all we get is "disable your autosave and wait 3000 years to reduce your save file" after the game was out for 40 days.

i apologise for sounding like an ass to everyone but it svcks I can't finish half the stuff I want to do because of this problem.

I enjoyed reading that

I really feel for the PS3 crowd on this, we all have a share of issues, but you guys seemed to draw the short straw in this.

My first save game is bugged too. Crash or freeze, can't move anymore. Didn't have those problems before having reached about 200 hours. I'm on pc, don't know if the large save file size only applies to ps3 though.

I agree completely with aLucidMind, best thing I can do is post my problem on the forum with the details and save file (which I did), instead of sending mails, either angry or polite, it just wastes their time. If only I would be assured they're checking (or will check out) my save file or problem out as I posted it, I wouldn't feel ignored, but I suppose I can only assume they are/will.

In the meantime, I started playing 2 other characters. I have patience, it's a big game, and it takes a lot of work to fix everything, especially when the cause is so hard to find. I just keep hoping they will fix my (and most likely many more people's) problem

yea its annoying when quests just bug out halfway, though its unlikely they'll fix this soon unless many people encounter it.

Not really, Alot of times about 100 hours or so into the game. I come up with a better idea for a character or class and start over.

Well maybe they should look at it from what it is - a consumer driven industry. Stop looking at it as it is now - industry driven. Look, if anyone in this forum makes a product for a price (hard earned cash) and it doesn't work completely, guess what... it's coming back. I tell you what, if software companies had to produce a product just like every other business that had a return policy that applied, I'm willing to bet you that the time constraints and budget limitations would be looked at in a different perspective now wouldn't they. Stop hiding behind the software return clause and do your job better. That's all everyone is asking in here anyway.

For those who think I am the only one having this issue, I have found a few others who have posted about this and started a new thread.


http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1320714-dont-tell-me-i-am-the-only-one-experiencing-this-bug/page__p__19854130#entry19854130

What's the point of getting on the forum to complain all the time about something everyone already knows about?

Is this your first TES game? Because Bethesda is not known for fixing their bugged games much after release.

Happened with MW and OB - don't know about their other games, but have read some threads that mention the same problems.