Well, i play sconsole exclusively and if they made all FPS's like CODMW2, I woulddn't ever buy games.
PC gamers arent the only ones who dont like that junk.

All the console FPS games are rigged. You have auto aim and big hitboxes because of the inaccuracy inherent in controllers. COD is just an example.

Right now I have been playing way too much Fallout New Vegas and because of that my Stalker games has deteriorated. I am slow and my aim is quite bad. I am fixing that and have my three saves, there are three Stalker games, in pretty heavy rotation. I estimate it will take about 15 - 20 hours to get my chops back.

I used to play Q3 and wander in once in a while to get slaughtered. When I was competition in that game I was very good. I am not bad these days but nowhere near that level. I am godlike compared to the console players I know.

please explain to me how the controllers are less accurate, realistically.
I dont want to hear something along the lines of CDA being better qaulity than MP3 when its not realistic to distiguish.

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its not that hard to play a fps on a console game, i play wolfenstein on my xbox, you just get use to the controller, i'm actually finding it a bit tricky to get use to the keyboard again lately since playing a game on my pc, and i use to do pc gaming a lot so its just a matter of what you're use to.

I think its just a case of a PC gamer on his high horse thinking Console Games are inferior. From what I have seen Rage looks amazing on the 360, in fact that is the only video I have seen so far.

When QIIIA was released for the Dreamcast (way back when Demi Moore passed for human) the difference between mouse and keyboard gamers and those on joypad/controllers was deffo apparent. Those on pads were generally sitting at the bottom of the scoreboard (only four players per arena) with next to no frags except those lucky rocket-spam fluke frags they'd scored by accident.

I don't think there's any trolling going on here. Mouse and keyboard is more intuitive for shooters... that's just a fact. Anyone who doesn't think so is deluding themselves. You could pit the best controller players against the best mouse and keyboard players every time and the result would be the same every time... the dude on the pad would get his ass handed to him. Every time.

None of this has any impact on RAGE across different platforms, me thinks, as has been said already it's not going to be a port to PC. If you play games like that last AvP though, on PC, you can see it's made for console. Those moments when an Alien spawns behind you, you can actually catch it before it has a chance to move, it'll just be sitting there, because it takes less a nano-second to turn around on PC.

You can see a good example of it on the http://www.mackandmesh.co.uk/'s "Mesh Does..." series of videos... for AvP. I can't remember which video it is but Mesh is hardly a good player, and you'll see plenty of examples of the console pacing exposing itself to a guy on a PC. You don't have to look there, compare any running videos of plenty of video games and you'll see the difference in pace. Watch any Fallout 3 console walkthrough and compare it to a PC walkthrough. Compare any of the New Vegas preview vids from before it was released, and tell me you can't spot when its on a console and when its on PC. Slooooow... you don't have to look at the visuals to know you're watching the sloooow console control method.

Some of the preview videos for NV were so dire it made the game look terrible. CoD players on PC will be looking left and right without changing walking direction, they can take in all directions in no time at all with quick twitches of the mouse, watch a console player you'll see very little movement on screen, it will be more strafing left right with barely any camera movement, more often than not keeping the cursor/reticle/crosshair level. Any screen movement often appears jerky. On PC it is a smooth and rapid action from point to point. On PC M&K you rarely if ever have to correct your reticle position, or fight with it. Scoring a headshot is as easy as looking at the desktop and clicking a desktop icon without even thinking about. lol

This is my last on this thread. Quite a few people cannot watch me play. It's just sickening they claim because I am all over the place. my directional travel has very little to do with where I am looking and my Doom induced angled movement, yup I still strafe run, makes makes little sense till I kill.

I do rolling 360s for fun. my view goes around 360 degrees while traveling in a straight line. I first did that many years ago after offing a Cyber. I was so happy I found myself doing rolling 360s to celebrate.

I'm sure I'll be able to do them in Rage but I fear for the compromises needed for controller play.

Indeed.

I used to be pretty good at FPS PC games. I played a heck of a lot of Quake 3 and Counter Strike. I left them alone for a couple of years, and now I'm just terrible.
I find a controller to be the most comfortable. Really, it just depends on which one you have the most fun on.

Is Quake 3 multi-player still up and running? I to enjoyed many hours of that game online.

Controllers just fit into your hand right, the buttons are easy to use. A keyboard is just awkward to me, also my big fingers always press other keys. Then again I grew up on Console, pretty new to PC

I started to try and do some editing, but this really seemed to be a thread that was an attempt at bashing consoles. Don't get into platform bashing here.

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