How to improve Skyrim more?

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:40 am

This creates the unfair, but understandable expectation, that any Elder Scrolls game sequel, needs to have everything the previous game had, plus new stuff. This means that most Elder Scrolls Fans have a specific Ideal of their Elder Scrolls experience. Almost always its their first ES game, but with their favorite mods installed, then improved in quality that only a developer backed by the wealth of a successful publisher can do. I admit to this Bias as well. I bet if you did a forum search for "Like Morrowind", at least 2/3's of the hits would be from me.

Why is it unfair to expect a sequel to have more content than its predecessors?
User avatar
Alex Vincent
 
Posts: 3514
Joined: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:31 pm

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:01 am

Still, Its depressing to see all this hate, against the one developer who is so successful, despite being so different, simply because they didn't include Harpy Language skill, or Darkmatter forged Blackplate Cuirasses.

I'm not hating. I love Bethesda and the games they make, but I'm very jealous of the PC users who get an even better game than they started with.
Of course, i'd have the PC version if my Ancient Nord Computer didn't run like syrup going up a hill on a cold day... :banghead:
User avatar
SiLa
 
Posts: 3447
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:52 am

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:16 am

Why is it unfair to expect a sequel to have more content than its predecessors?

^^^
User avatar
Big mike
 
Posts: 3423
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:38 pm

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:52 am

Why is it unfair to expect a sequel to have more content than its predecessors?

Skyrim does have more content than it's predecessors, Skyrim has unlimited content.

I think what you meant is, Why is it unfair to expect Skyrim to simply add on, instead of taking away, correct?

To that I say, because Skyrim isn't a traditional sequel. It's the same deal with System Shock and Bioshock, or Fallout 2 and Fallout 3. Want, is not expect. I want Morrowind II, I don't, and never will expect it.

Of course, some things in previous games are reasonable to expect. Decent writing for example. Because quality is a measurable constant, and after Fallout 3, we were lead to believe that Bethesda had become somewhat competent in the field. Only to find later in Skyrim, that we can't even refuse to sell Nocturnal our eternal soul (for absolutely nothing, mind you), or refuse to become a smelly dog simply to be a questing hero.

I'm not hating. I love Bethesda and the games they make, but I'm very jealous of the PC users who get an even better game than they started with.
Of course, i'd have the PC version if my Ancient Nord Computer didn't run like syrup going up a hill on a cold day... :banghead:

I didn't mean to imply you were. Just a general observation of the attitude on these forums. The problem is, it's not even useful hate. They're usually passive aggressive "Ragebarks" like "If skyrim was an rpg itd be good".

My insane ravings are drifting the topic a little off course...

I just think a higher standard needs to be held by the term "Better", as provable quality.

For example, Morrowind plays like total crap, Skyrim plays infinitely better, both games are still far from perfect.

Skryim has a difficulty curve that plateaus around halfway through the reasonable content of the game. Morrowind did as well. Oblivion on the other hand, had a difficulty curve of near hyperbolic growth, since the Player was capped but the enemies essentially weren't. All 3 still haven't done it right.
User avatar
Tinkerbells
 
Posts: 3432
Joined: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:22 pm

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:59 pm

to improve skyrim i would do 3 things: add attributes into the game mechanics, add a hardcoe mode that included a bunch of xtra toggles (other than eat/sleep) and improve the a.i.
User avatar
hannaH
 
Posts: 3513
Joined: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:50 am

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:38 am

I would like more focus on characters and less on flashy stuff (like in the game jam video). Flesh out characters more and put them in a more complex social context. Make it matter what you do. This is something that is hard to remedy with mods because of the voice acting.
User avatar
Sara Johanna Scenariste
 
Posts: 3381
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:24 pm

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:13 pm

I would like more focus on characters and less on flashy stuff (like in the game jam video). Flesh out characters more and put them in a more complex social context. Make it matter what you do. This is something that is hard to remedy with mods because of the voice acting.

Hurrah.

Markarth is really the only city I see that does that to any real degree. The whole Natives-Nords, Rich Landowner-Poor Mine workers... I just wish That quest, The Forsworn Conspiracy didn't kill off 2/3 of the population of the most interesting (If probably the ugliest) town in Skyrim.
User avatar
Jason Rice
 
Posts: 3445
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:42 pm

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:35 am

i just want the marriage system to be improved. and when i say improved, i mean redone it a way that makes sense
User avatar
-__^
 
Posts: 3420
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:48 pm

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:49 pm

Hurrah.

Markarth is really the only city I see that does that to any real degree. The whole Natives-Nords, Rich Landowner-Poor Mine workers... I just wish That quest, The Forsworn Conspiracy didn't kill off 2/3 of the population of the most interesting (If probably the ugliest) town in Skyrim.

I will go as far as to say that was possibly the best quest in Skyrim..
@abc,
I'd LOVE for that to happen, but I doubt it ever will. I think Oblivion's attention to your character was much better than skyrim's is.. I'd sacrifice good graphics for the... How do I put it?... Just, the 'Feel' of the past games.
User avatar
Chloe Botham
 
Posts: 3537
Joined: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:11 am

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:47 am

Less presets in customization.
User avatar
Syaza Ramali
 
Posts: 3466
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:46 am

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:00 am

Where to start? There's just too much that badly needs improving, once you look beyond the pretty scenery and fun exploration. Meh. The list is too depressingly long and familiar and already well-travelled, for me to even feel like diving into it. So I won't.
User avatar
emily grieve
 
Posts: 3408
Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:55 pm

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:06 am

How sad for you. I wouldn't change a thing.

Skyrim is the better of all the Elder Scrolls game, I am happy. :bunny: Like a bunny!

Yea an army of happy bunnies!

If one wants to change something learn how to mod or search for mods which do your hearts desire :D
User avatar
luis ortiz
 
Posts: 3355
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:21 pm

Previous

Return to V - Skyrim