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I like the idea of getting married in the game.

I do think that it can be improved though.

This is what I have thought of so far:

• I think it would be good to have a courtship quest instead of just wearing the amulet (I really enjoyed the quest to get the amulet, so it would be nice to have a quest to woo the one you want to be with)
  
• I think it would be nice to have a honeymoon quest.
  
• I also think there should be more dialogue once you were married (instead of just getting money and a pie from them and them calling you love)
  
• If you married someone who is also your housecarl and follower I think that they drop the formal thane/follower talk (they could say the same things affectionately)

How do you think they could improve marriage?

One word: six.

As of now, since it's not available, my Nord 2H swordsman remains single.

having Bosmer and Khajiit as a Choice

90% of the people you can choose to marry are Nords o.o
I know were in Skyrim but i'd like a little more biased options here.

Remove it....total waste of programmers time.

This.

It's such a tiny part of the game, and was likely tossed in simply as a "hey, people might find this cool" addition.

Instead, I see so many people complaining about it not being "good enough".

You know how to make it "good enough"? Make it so you meet someone, have to ask them on a date, go out for at least several game months - and yes, you actually have to meet them at the wnking skeever for dinner on saturday at 7, or they get pissed that you stood them up.....also, let's not forget at least one "lovers weekend" trip to, say, lovely Riften (or Solitude if their from Riften) - don't forget to add in some jealousy if you spend too much time with your housecarl. Ask them to marry you . . .now pay for the wedding. Flowers, rings, pay the priest, send out invitations, order the caterer . . did you remember to hire the carriage for the trip from the temple to the reception? What, you didn't book the tavern for the reception?

Moving on, now let's add some complaining about the long hours you keep at work, the way your spouse sits around all day yet the house is still a mess, add some make up six, a few dashes of not tonight, i have a headache . . .what do you mean you think it's time we had children? And I do so take you out, we just went to some Dwemer ruins last weekend!!!! A few visits from the in-laws, and then a pregnancy, 2 am feedings . . .jump ahead to kid being bullied at school . . or doing the bullying . . . wait, who's taking little Dovahkin to band practice tomorrow?

Only then it will be Skyrim - the Sims. And I wouldn't buy it (and I'm betting many others wouldn't, either)

Agreed! Although it's probably not the popular choice on these forums.

It's so basic and shallow as it is I don't think Beth can make it into a worthwhile feature.

I wouldn't say they shouldn't have done it in the first place, it's just something new to bethesda in which they tend to go deeper with in the next one, maybe Marriage svcks in Skyrim but doesn't mean it won't in the next Elder scrolls.

Remember the Companion system in Oblivion? i hated people following me, all they did is get in the way.
now they're actually useful

Just thinking out loud here, but I think it would be awesome for a way to conceive a child while married. From there, word gets out that the "dragonborn" will be having a child, and maybe a questline could be added along the lines of defending your unborn child from uneasy people/dragons who come to kill the child before it is born. I just think that would be pretty cool. Aside from that, I do (at the moment) find marriage pointless.

I agree to remove marriage, and put in a more in-depth companion feature like in New Vegas, where they have their own personal quests.

^this.


^that.

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err, reading some of these posts gives me a weirded-out feeling. I think I will opt out of this discussion.

Yes that is true. It would be good to see a bigger variety of those who you can marry.

Another thing that I have thought of it flirting. When I first played Knights of the olf Republic I thought it was great to flirt with the character Carth. Something like that would also be fun.

Hopefully like with the companions, Bethesda can improve marriage. I think it is a nice addition to the game, but as it is at the moment it is not as good as it could be.

Anymore ideas of how it can be improved?

The best way to improve marriage in the game is to REMOVE IT.

This isn't the SIM's, go play that if you want ingame marriage.

There is nothing that could be done with it to make it half way worth putting in the game.

Courtship/marriage quests might not be the best thing. One of the things that really brought down GTA4 was the dates you had to go on, including the "bro" dates. Kinda pointless.

I don't mind marriage in the game. Doesn't add much as is but removing it doesn't add much either.

Removing it adds more time for the devs to do something else than waste time trying to add something that doesn't belong in the game.

Yes, but the topic is how can marriage be *improved* meaning it's there already and what can make it better. Removing it would take more time for the devs.

What's all this talk of removing it? I thought we were roleplayers here. Doesn't marriage come into that for some people too?

You don't have to get married, and for those that do, it is a nice option to add to our roleplaying experience. Sure it's a little shallow but it's better than nothing.

As for improving it, it would be nice to have some extra dialogue options/quests as some people have already suggested.

Couldn't agree more.. I wasn't even aware of it until I heard someone mention it on the train a while ago..... weird day!

Make it more available. The idea that we have to is weird. If you like an NPC, raise their disposition enough, the choice for marriage should just show up, without having to make a pilgramage.

This is an RPG, not a marriage sim. The only way to improve it would be to make this into a marriage sim. TES never had marriage before and made 2 of the best RPG's ever made. It doesn't need it to be good. It's a waste of resources that could be used to further other more imporant RPG things in the game.

In my opinion removing it is improving game overall and that is the bottom line, isn't it?

ik how to improve marriage, by removing it

I agree with many people in this thread, if marriage isn't going to get more attention then now, it should be removed.





If Bethesda does wish to expand on marriage, they need to make each spouse actually have his/her own personality.



- less spouse options (20 would be fine) (1 male and 1 female of each race


-more dialogue

-spouse quest lines

-actual courting and dating

-six (nothing graphic, but a tasteful cut scene would be nice)

- flirting and pet names between you and you spouse

-having you spouse still being a part of the games world (once you marry them, they tend to go nowhere and not interact with the world as much)


Beth may even want to take a look at games like Dragon Age Origins,Mass effect and the Withcer and expand on how the romances were those games. If done right, marriage could be a great option, and add a lot of depth to the series. But to achieve this will take a lot of work. If Beth isn't will to put that effort in, then the option should just be dropped.

I play this game almost every day. Usually at least one hour, if not two or three hours. Not once do I think about marriage in the game until I come onto the boards and see a thread on it. It is just something that does not appeal to me in a game like this.

I am glad it is an option for those who want it, and I am glad I can ignore it as a player as I don't care for it. To me, that is a great game feature, fun for some, optional for all.

The only thing it'd need is a male and female version of all races available for marriage, preferably every single NPC that makes sense.

Less nords, or rather more of the other races

I did it because I thought it made your back up impossable to kill. Mine dies faster than our enemies when she steps in front of one of my destruction spells. I married a ranged fighter for a reason, and Aela keeps grabbin that dagger and charging the enemy right when I cut a duel handed bolt set up loose. Next thing ya know shes bouncin off the walls as dead as that night on our honey moon !!!! I think she is up to 6 times now. She may never reach LVL 50 at this point !!