How Rage’s Blurry Textures Tried To Push The Envelope Of 3D Gaming


http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/megatexture-was-an-ambitious-failure/

Dear old Kotaku. Like they can give a balanced view of anything, eh? Considering that they were there early at the hate-fest, considering that they were pushing the lies about Doom 4 being cancelled, I think it's fair to say that anything they come up with must be taken with an appropriately-sized grain of salt.

KOTAKU can kiss my ass, then svck my left nut.

Seriously, nothing they post ever shows a scrap of common sense. C'mon, they should win an award for being the least credible source on the internet. For crying out loud Wikipedia tells us more how it is.

Yep, back to that agian I see. Useless site...

The amount of salt required to take Kotaku seriously about anything anymore would kill you.

The irony is that they're actually correct about a few things (including criticisms) in that report, but it's all wrapped up in a malignant pulsating ball of "yah boo Rage svcks" - if they'd just drop that and do an honest anolysis of the thing... but sigh.

I think they're trolling for the lulz, though a game news site shouldn't do that...

More likely they're doing it for the money as well as laughs. Its called "yellow journalism" and is no different then Fox News or Rush Limbaugh hate mongering, distorting the facts, etc. If that's the kind of thing you like it's fine by me, but it doesn't lend either them or anyone using them as a reference any more credibility then referencing a conspiracy theory website.

Perfectly summed up

I love how many people immediately start attacking the article and website without even reading it.

From what I read it didn't seem too critical about RAGE. It seemed to be explaining the pros and cons of megatexturing in the game. The video also gave a lot of credit to the artistic detail of the game which should be recognized (I didn't care for RAGE's gameplay but I do appreciate the art of the game).

Can someone please site me an example from this article on how it was unfair or overly critical of RAGE.

LOL, tell us who here criticized the article without reading it? Or are you merely attacking us with wild accusations?

Did you even listen to the video? The guy spent the first five minutes insisting he wasn't qualified to critique the technology, and then went on to do so anyway. I'm not even a programmer and I know more about it then he does. In addition, Kotaku claiming other then the rocky launch of Rage they haven't had much to say about the game is brazen lie. Among other things they spread a rumor Bethesda had suspended development of Doom 4 because of Rage. I could go on, but its pointless going into detail with someone who makes vague accusations about the integrity of the people posting here.

The core group here is very sensitive to any criticism of Rage. Apparently it's the "haters" that are the cause of everything that's wrong with the game. Interesting logic, but you know how fanbois are.

The "core group" here like myself are sensitive to people making wild accusations about them much less the stupid game! I've admitted repeatedly I think the game is mediocre at best and has seriously flaws, but that's no reason to stop all rational discussion of the game in favor of mindless ranting and raving.

Dunno if you count me in that "core group", but the record will show that I've been openly critical about the game where I feel it deserves it. The world isn't divided into fanbois and haters you know; it's possible to have a balanced opinion and like some things but not like others.

I found the 16 minute video interesting... I better understand Mega Texture now and wanna play more rage.

Being so incredibility sensitive aren't you?

Every technology has its strengths and weaknesses...its a fact and its not just a personal attack. Games I love and games I hate have pros and cons.

You have provided zero evidence about how in that article they unfairly attacked RAGE...zero evidence...none. Instead you just want to put me on the defensive and not deal with the topic. You admit he disclaims he is not an expert...but I guess if someone knows less than you on anything they should not be allowed to share their feelings.

If anyone feels that their integrity is being attacked...well perhaps they should question if they do have any integrity in the first place.

I like to provide a mirror for people to see their own reflection in.


Now you want evidence after refusing to provide names and evidence to back up your own insults. What comes around goes around. Show me yours and I'll show you mine. That, or start showing some respect for the people here and ask nicely. Or is that too much to ask?

Nobody's integrity is being attacked by this. It's just that the overview - while making some valid points - has an undercurrent of unbalance and bias against the game that makes it's motives suspect. The clue is right there in the title: "How Rage’s Blurry Textures Tried To Push The Envelope Of 3D Gaming". It's full of passive-agressive little swipes like that which detract from the valid points it is making. Sure, it's a snappy headline that makes for good press - moreso than something like "idTech 5 virtual textures - strengths and weaknesses - 5 months on, an anolysis", for example. But it's still a loaded statement - again with the "textures up close" weenie-isms, the implicit "...and failed" after "tried" (and if you think I'm just being paranoid here you obviously haven't seen the word "failure" in the URL).

It's throughout the article accompanying the video as well, and accompanied by a condescending arrogance. Presuming to speak for everyone's opinion ("a layman’s explanation of MegaTexture", "we gamers"), portraying id as a company completely off the rails and behaving like a loose cannon ("charged on ahead anyway"), and so on.

Yes, I did watch the video, and yes, there are some valid criticisms, praisings and general observations in it (despite the guy's annoying voice), but the overall veneer of hatred detracts from that. What we have here is tabloid sensationalist journalism, a certain glee at kicking someone while they're down, and all content of worth smothered.

Some day a good anolysis of what happened, and how and why it happened, will be done. This isn't it; this is Kotaku adding more fuel to the fire they helped start. Their track record is there for all to see; the Sun of gaming news sites.

1/10, try harder next time.

A bit defensive are we? I really liked "the overall veneer of hatred". You do have a way with words.

Defensive? Why, what have I to defend? No, just pointing out a few things.

Way to deflect the thread from discussion of the article, by the way.

No one is defensive. Kotaku, on the other hand, is quite offensive.
There are quite many game news sites, and I can tell ya, Kotaku is the only one that pissess me off.

When it comes to writing news on id or Rage, Kotaku pukes out [censored], with some occasional bits of nice candy.

I didn't mind the piece but he missed a lot of stuff.
Colour palette, geometry, insane amount of detail & CHARACTER ANIMATION.

Plus the fact RAGE is arguably the best looking game ever released.

(From a die hard devoted fan & fully paid up Hammer Legion member.)

Why wouldn't it let me say f.a.n.b.o.i.?!

“That’s like saying the National Enquirer is a newspaper… Kotaku is all smut and lies."
Tommy Refenes - Creator of Super Meat Boy

"Kotaku wrote a story that was fraudulent, without the proper research, and considering this article was written a full 24 hours after the original meeting he mis-quotes in the article, fashioned it to be the most sensational to get more traffic."
Brennan M - PSOneClassics

"Gawker Media’s destroying it’s purported empire all by itself. Case in point, Kotaku’s lost well over half of its visitors over the last six months. Even more hilariously, Gawker.com barely maintains about a third of its original viewer base from December. Looks like childish journalism isn’t as popular as one might have imagined."
Kirk Sigmon

I don't have any problem with people having a go at RAGE, I'm not a big fan of people who defend against crap like Kotaku being called Faan Boooys (tried to get round word checker thing). I haven't paid s&*^ all attention to Kotaku cos as we've seen, they are pretty useless. It's the same as Australia's A Current Affiar, or Today Tonight. They are so full of crap and one sided it's hard not to laugh at them. Then I went and did English in school and leant to anolyse various techniques to get people interested in things and found that that's all the shows are; they are simply made for your average pleb who can't be bothered to go out and find some descent news.

My mate wrote a review of RAGE, it was really long, covered almost every detail you could think of, and told both goods and bads. At the end it had a table that had "The Goods", the "Grey stuff" and the "Crap" columns. (NMot exact names, but the feel is there). It was a great review, and I believe it is that that people should eb trying to go through, otherwise how are we meant to get a feel for the game?

In tterms of the article and the mega Texturing, I'd be interested to see what happens when DOom 4 comes out, they said something about an advanced graphics pack (dont remember where...), ut it would be good to review the engine again there.