Why did you repost your post from earlier?

I expect that a Warp in the North is unlikely. They probably won't want to default to that solution every time they come up with a quest that gives the player multiple outcomes. That's unwieldy.

I do think it's more likely that it will be "unclear" who won the war, but that the Empire collapses, receedes, or withdraws in the longer run. In other words, even if the Empire beat Ulfric with the Dovahkiin, the Stormcloak movement ultimately succeeds.

History books in this game don't really talk too much about the "Faction" accomplishments of the Nerevarine, nor of the CoC. The books, for the most part, only recognize main quest events. In other words, you don't see history books in Skyrim about the COC being the head of the thieves guild, that person is just a mysterious actor in collusion with the Grey Fox. Likewise, there aren't any books about what the Nerevarine did for the Mages Guild in Morrowind.

Nope, those accomplishments are usually left out, and attributed to some random prominent "person." Likewise, I don't think the Dovahkiin will get credit for taking sides in the Civil War, regardless of the fact that the player can actually do that in the game.

It's more of a faction quest than a main one. Sadly, I think this is the most likely outcome.

I think Tamriel might be without an empire in the next game.

The Warp in the West was concocted to deal with Daggerfall's 6 possible endings; basically, they -all- happened. The fundamental outcome was the same (Numidium was ultimately destroyed), but some of the endings led to the Orcs having a true homeland, others led to either the ascension to godhood or demise of the King of Worms (aka Zurin Arctus, Imperial Battlemage for Tiber Septim, who's heart powered the Numidium when Septim used it to conquer Tamriel).

What I see as the most likely outcome for the future post Skyrim is Skyrim allying with Hammerfell. The empire is already in pieces, so there is no 'saving it'. But it might slow the Aldmeri enough for a Northern Alliance to grow strong enough to stand up to them. If the Dunmer are given a reason to stand with said alliance, it will toss whatever remnants of Imperial loyalty are left to the sloads and happily help pound the Dominion into the ground......for aid in reclaiming their homeland (getting them out of everyone else's back yard in the process).

It would be nice if you could port your Dovahkin over to the next game, and become like the next Tiber Septim......but that won't happen.

And you know this how? It would be logical to assume he is the dovahkiin for the lore unless BS has stated otherwise.

Like any true bethesda game...It wont. They always leave strings hanging.

I say Skyrim gets nuked a la Vvardenfel. But whatever happens, the choices in the game will be totally inconsequential to events in future games.

That would be impossible, Vvardenfel had a very unique set of circumstances with its huge volcano and such that literally dominated the landscape, and then exploded.

and skyrim probly has some hidden deus ex machina, or perhaps something not so hidden, that is there just for the purpose of tying up loose ends as well.

putting the setting of TES 3 on a giant pressure cooker was a pretty creative show of foresight.

I would actually like to see that happen.

Bethesda has given a strong hint that the Tamriel Empire will break up. From page 2 of Oblivion: Official Game Guide, "And in Oblivion, Cyrodiil more and more resembles Rome before the fall."

Simplest resolution to the plot lines of Skyrim would be to set Elder Scrolls VI half a century or more in the future in a context where several more of Tamriel's provinces have either established independence or have been overrun. The writers could gloss over details with something like, Although the Imperial army was able to fight down some of the uprisings, the fierceness of the Skyrim rebellion inspired citizens throughout the provinces to challenge the Empire and the dominance of the Thalmor. Eventually Tamriel's army spread too thin and the capital lost its empire.

Im sorry im using my cellphone and for some rEason my post was in the coment bar so I thought it didnt get sent
Sorry for the double post ...is there a way for me to remove it ?

Easiest way: just refer to "the second civil war". Then it doesn't matter who won. Or don't mention Skyrim at all.

Thalmor took over Skyrim. It's pretty obvious that it doesn't matter who wins; The Thalmor have advantage no matter what happens.

Or both Ulfric and Tullius were dead the whole time (or at least died when the Alduin destroyed Helgen).

I don't understand why people think the Thalmor will easily take over Skyrim. They couldn't do it in Hammerfell, and they won't do it in Skyrim. I'd argue an alliance of Skyrim and Hammerfell (heck, a free High Rock could join also after the fall of the empire) could take on the Thalmor and crush their arrogance.

It could always be worded something like "Ulfric really put up a fight. Ulfric had a good hand, but the Empire had a stacked deck. He was doomed from the beginning." Just something really vague that could imply either an Empire or Stormcloak victory. Even if you side with the Stormcloaks, the Empire could strike back.

They can write it up like this.

"Records are lost all thats known is Ulfric died shortly before the Thalmor invaded, Skyrim as part of the Empire fights the Thalmor as the Second great war begins with Elisif as high Queen."

That covers the following possibilities for Wrapping up the civil war.

1. Empire wins Elisif becomes high queen and Ulfric dies and Skyrim and the Empire fight the Thalmor.

or

2. Ulfric wins, leaves Elisif in charge of solitude. Ulfric gets killed not long after leaving Elisif to become High Queen and Skyrim rejoins the Empire to fight the Thalmor.

There could be a hint in the dialogue by Viarmo at the Bard's College when he talks about how (couldn't find the exact dialogue so may be off on this but...) Skyrim will have had many Kings through history but the dragons are a story for the ages. I think Bethesda could write pretty much anything they want about the outcome(s) of the civil war and just have it be long-resolved for the next game. It could be anything...maybe a great leader that everyone wanted unified the country again...or unified the Empire again. I'm wondering if the dragons will still be around in TESVI.

Easy solution, emperor is killed (it doesn't matter if by the Db or by another attempt - here another possible different outcome is avoided) and some major event cause the nords to put the differences aside and join the struggle together. In the chaos following the return of dragon and the collapse of the empire, the scholars couldn't find evidence that the civil war saw a clear victor.

They will only mention a dragonborn that will reunite skyrim and lead the nords against the external threat.

The events surrounding the Skyrim Revolution and the Dragonborn have become the equivalent of the Myths, Rumours, and Legends surrounding the Warp in the West. The only common factor to all of the stories is the verification of the manipulation of an Elder Scroll or Scrolls by the Moth Priests, and the Dragons themselves also confirm this story.
The rise of the Dragon population throughout Tamriel, in fact the whole of Nirn appears to be the result of a legitimate Dragon Break. The Dragon Paarthurnax has confirmed the Jills had mended the break, and many of them have chosen to remain on Nirn.
The Dragonborn may have found a way of reading an Elder Scroll that is currently unknown to any scholars, and if such a method does exist, any documented evidence has vanished into Oblivion.

Lets hope they do not include dragons in the next game.

With Alduin genuinely dead and a new line of Dragonborn, you'd have to assume that all the remaining dragons would be killed within a decade or two.

I suspect it will be listed as a civil war that was eventually resolved when the Thalmor showed their hand and tried conquering Tamriel again. With a common enemy, bent on extermination of non-elves all sides joined to defeat them.