Intestinal worms in my food(again)

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:51 pm

How is marinated fish is prep?

I found worms in my food before,but i had no worries since the food was cooked and boiled.

From what i know marinated fish is not cooked/boiled or anything like that.

The worm was obviously dead,but could i have got infested with microscopical eggs?

The fish was from a grocery store.

http://www.craiova-online.ro/attachments/retete-culinare/3534d1220972834-peste-marinat-2.jpg
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Jessie Butterfield
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:40 am

Wait, so you ate it, knowing full well that there were worms in it :blink:?
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CArla HOlbert
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:25 am

Wait, so you ate it, knowing full well that there were worms in it :blink:?

No i saw the worm after that,how could you think that?

I already have a intestinal worm phobia,and these incidents cause me much distress.
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Nicholas C
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:34 pm

If you cook it thoroughly it should be ok. I wouldn't take the risk myself.
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Andrea Pratt
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:22 pm

No i saw the worm after that,how could you think that?


Because of how you worded this:

"I found worms in my food before,but i had no worries since the food was cooked and boiled."
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Emilie M
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:12 pm

How is marinated fish is prep?
I found worms in my food before,but i had no worries since the food was cooked and boiled.
From what i know marinated fish is not cooked/boiled or anything like that.
The worm was obviously dead,but could i have got infested with microscopical eggs?

As long as it was cooked thoroughly, you should be fine.

Marinated fish is just fish coated with a liquid for flavoring.
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:36 pm

As long as it was cooked thoroughly, you should be fine.

Marinated fish is just fish coated with a liquid for flavoring.

Well marinated fish,don't know if its the good translation.
From what i know they are not cooked.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:39 pm

No i saw the worm after that,how could you think that?

I already have a intestinal worm phobia,and these incidents cause me much distress.


That "worm" was parasite?

or just ordinary http://shanegfowler.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/conficker-worm.jpg?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:13 am

"Marinated" simply means that the meat was soaked in some kind of flavoring. It doesn't determine what kind of cooking method it gets afterward. It seems odd that any kind of store-bought meat wouldn't indicate whether or not it was cooked, especially fish, which doesn't last long. How did you buy it? From what I'm used to you can buy it fresh/raw, frozen, or dried. If it's the former cooking it is your responsibility.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:26 am

"Marinated" simply means that the meat was soaked in some kind of flavoring. It doesn't determine what kind of cooking method it gets afterward. It seems odd that any kind of store-bought meat wouldn't indicate whether or not it was cooked, especially fish, which doesn't last long. How did you buy it? From what I'm used to you can buy it fresh/raw, frozen, or dried. If it's the former cooking it is your responsibility.


I beleve we are talking about http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JHPljqyGLr8/SzTJFKtyHEI/AAAAAAAAALc/I8yW6r7VLvI/s400/IMG_2977.JPG kind of stuff, right?

Since that is not cooked like OP said.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:25 am

I beleve we are talking about http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JHPljqyGLr8/SzTJFKtyHEI/AAAAAAAAALc/I8yW6r7VLvI/s400/IMG_2977.JPG kind of stuff, right?

Since that is not cooked like OP said.

http://www.craiova-online.ro/attachments/retete-culinare/3534d1220972834-peste-marinat-2.jpg
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:27 am

http://www.craiova-online.ro/attachments/retete-culinare/3534d1220972834-peste-marinat-2.jpg

The question still remains though: Was it cooked?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:36 pm

http://www.craiova-online.ro/attachments/retete-culinare/3534d1220972834-peste-marinat-2.jpg


Is that what you were eating? Just like that? Because that's raw. And there's a much much higher chance of finding worms in raw food than in cooked food.
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Kit Marsden
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:20 am

The question still remains though: Was it cooked?

I don't know.
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Eduardo Rosas
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:15 pm

I don't know.


How can you not know? I would think anybody would know the difference between raw and cooked fish.
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Adam Porter
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:04 pm

I don't know.


Did it tasted like it was cooked?

I'm not sure if it is good to eat random food you don't know it is eatable or not...
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:02 pm

"Marinated fish" to me usually means something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche, which is fish "cooked" by being pickled in lime juice. This does not kill bacteria or parasites in the fish.

I eat ceviche only at restaurants I know well, or make it at home from fish I got from a reputable grocer and inspected carefully. I would not use any fish that had visible parasites, or came from a grocer where I had previously bought fish that had parasites.

Boston cooking instructor Helen Rennie has a well-written food blog with good articles on parasites in fish:
http://beyondsalmon.blogspot.com/2006/09/parasites-in-fish-part-1-cod-worm.html
http://beyondsalmon.blogspot.com/2006/10/parasites-in-fish-part-2-anisakis-and.html

And the UC Davis Extension, which is one of the US's best authorities on anything to do with food:
http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/pubs/parasite.htm
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:08 am

"Marinated fish" to me usually means something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche, which is fish "cooked" by being pickled in lime juice. This does not kill bacteria or parasites in the fish.

I eat ceviche only at restaurants I know well, or make it at home from fish I got from a reputable grocer and inspected carefully. I would not use any fish that had visible parasites, or came from a grocer where I had previously bought fish that had parasites.

Boston cooking instructor Helen Rennie has a well-written food blog with good articles on parasites in fish:
http://beyondsalmon.blogspot.com/2006/09/parasites-in-fish-part-1-cod-worm.html
http://beyondsalmon.blogspot.com/2006/10/parasites-in-fish-part-2-anisakis-and.html

And the UC Davis Extension, which is one of the US's best authorities on anything to do with food:
http://seafood.ucdavis.edu/pubs/parasite.htm

Thanks,i don't know of any reputable places here.
The food that had worms,and these fish where baught from different places, the most reputable grocery shops around here are hypermarkets.
Those are the safest,as far as i know.

Really 2 choices---independent stores or hypermarkets.
I really don't trust indie shops here,many times i got expired items from those.

Also,could i take some worm drugs?
Will they hurt me if i don't have the said worms?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:45 am

The worm was long and it was in the spine of the fish,i pulled it out of its spine by the left out tip.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:37 pm

The worm was long and it was in the spine of the fish,i pulled it out of its spine by the left out tip.

If you can identify the type of fish, we can try to search for the parasite.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:02 pm

If you can identify the type of fish, we can try to search for the parasite.

The fish is herring,as i said earlier but can't find any info on its worms.

Read dogsbody's links only 3 types of fish worms are damaging to human.

The herring can have all 3 of them.

Have to show worm to vet.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:27 pm

The worm was long and it was in the spine of the fish,i pulled it out of its spine by the left out tip.


Sounds like a tapeworm. Tapeworms will settle around the backbone of the host fish. Researchers differ on the question of whether fish tapeworms can infect humans.

There are different ways of preparing peste marinat [lit. "marinated fish"; http://www.retro-housewife.com/peste-marinat-recipe.html]; some involve long cooking, and some don't. The ones that don't, won't effectively kill parasites.

If parasites in fish is a life-and-death concern to you, you need to not eat fish that you do not know was either:

* Thoroughly cooked (to 60 Celsius all the way through), or

* Deep frozen (to -20 Celsius all the way through).

This may have the consequence of eliminating a lot of tasty things from your diet. If you want to take the chance anyway, fish parasites only rarely infect humans, and when they do, they hardly ever cause chronic illness.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:17 pm

Ugh...stuff like this is why I stay away from any kind of questionable fish.

If you're going to eat fish from now on, I would definetely pay attention to the stats Dogsbody made above; cooked completely, to a safe degree, or deep frozen. If it's going to be raw, keep it frozen for a good amount of time, at a low enough temperature. If you're unsure about how well the fish was cooked, frozen, or stored, I would simply avoid it. Now, in Romania, I have no idea how common raw fish is, but I've never had it, I don't even plan on trying it. No matter how rare the statistics are, it's not worth the risk, and does not sound very appealing to me.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:32 pm

Sounds like a tapeworm. Tapeworms will settle around the backbone of the host fish. Researchers differ on the question of whether fish tapeworms can infect humans.

There are different ways of preparing peste marinat [lit. "marinated fish"; http://www.retro-housewife.com/peste-marinat-recipe.html]; some involve long cooking, and some don't. The ones that don't, won't effectively kill parasites.

If parasites in fish is a life-and-death concern to you, you need to not eat fish that you do not know was either:

* Thoroughly cooked (to 60 Celsius all the way through), or

* Deep frozen (to -20 Celsius all the way through).

This may have the consequence of eliminating a lot of tasty things from your diet. If you want to take the chance anyway, fish parasites only rarely infect humans, and when they do, they hardly ever cause chronic illness.

Yes,i think it was tapeworm,the larva was segmented ,when i looked with magnifing lens.

Also my mom says the fish is frozen before they sell it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:27 am

Fish tapeworm, Diphyllobothrium?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphyllobothrium#Clinical_symptoms.2C_including_occasional_parasite-induced_B12_deficiency

And next time be a little more savvy when it comes to picking out food and making sure it is cooked.

EDIT: frozen @ 0*C might not be as effective as a lower temperature, such as that -20*C Dogsbody posted. Some critters just go dormant at low temperatures and don't die.
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