June 6 (1:15pm PST) - Machinima Dawnguard E3 Demo [merged si

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:45 pm

Ask about the Volkihar clans and how they fit into lore! I hate all these stupid questions! Someone must ask! They must!
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:54 pm

Damn it! No! Sheesh, people ask the lamest questions.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:39 am

Why don't the journalists ask if soul cairn is the only area added?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:03 am

So ALL vampires got an overhaul! Not just the ones from Dawnguard!

So, will they finally make the vampires in Skyrim the Cyrodiilic vampires?

You mean Not the Cyrodillic Vampires right? Because the Skyrim Vampires are already like the Cyrodillic.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:17 pm

Damn it! No! Sheesh, people ask the lamest questions.
Why don't the journalists ask if soul cairn is the only area added?
I feel like they pretend they are asking other peoples questions, but really they are questions they were given to ask.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:29 am

i do hope that we will have more new areas to visit
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:22 pm

i do hope that we will have more new areas to visit

I think that in the Machinima video, it was strongly implied that there were new areas to explore.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:16 am

I'm sure the journalists had a list of questions they were supposed to ask and a list with questions that were off limits.
They obviously couldn't ask questions about anything that wasn't directly vampire/werwolf related. It was heavily implied that there is much more than the main quest content wise included in this dlc, and the normal reaction would have been to ask for an example. =/
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:49 pm

You mean Not the Cyrodillic Vampires right? Because the Skyrim Vampires are already like the Cyrodillic.
They should just remove the damn title of "Volkihar" and make the Cyrodiilic vampires...well...Cyrodiilic. Movarth Piquine shouldn't be confused with another vampire who is labeled a "Volkihar".
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:29 pm

Can someone link a picture of the Female Vampire Lord? They are different, I hope...
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:25 am

Can someone link a picture of the Female Vampire Lord? They are different, I hope...

There are none to show.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:03 pm

Can someone link a picture of the Female Vampire Lord? They are different, I hope...

They haven't been shown, at least to my knowledge, but both vsions and Matt on gamespot said female vampire lords will look different.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:37 pm

just as http://www.horror-movies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Monica_BellucciDracula_1992.jpg, but with boobs?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:03 pm

Okay, I just saw someone mention them. Wasn't sure if they were shown or not.

I would think the Females would be lest muscular, more lean. Ya know, less bulky. Wings might be longer and more feminine.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:14 pm

They should just remove the damn title of "Volkihar" and make the Cyrodiilic vampires...well...Cyrodiilic. Movarth Piquine shouldn't be confused with another vampire who is labeled a "Volkihar".

The skyrim strain has resistance to cold, bonuses to sneak and illusion and a life drain power its clearly a different strain then the cyrodillic. Its an absolute established fact the ability to blend into society was never once unique to the cyrodillic strain. Daggerfall had nine clans all of whom could blend into human cities. Thus far the inability to blend into human society appears unique to the Morrowind strains. The written material Immortal blood and the Manifesto from the Vile Lair were written by vampires making them untrust worthy sources. So when it conflicts with what we see with our own eyes it means the authors were lying.(what you expected vampires to be honest when writing down the abilities of vampries)

The real difference we can see from the trailers is we can now feed on awake targets instead of just sleeping ones which could be considered a left over mechanic from oblivion as it worked for making vampires playable. Hopefully the overhaul will make it function more like it was in daggerfall where you had to feed daily or you'd grow weaker.
I would think the Females would be lest muscular, more lean. Ya know, less bulky. Wings might be longer and more feminine.
The Vampire Lord appears like a demonic bulky male(weight slider all the way to the right) Nord or Orc in size. The females would probably be similar
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:42 pm

How was the manifesto an untrustworthy source? it was written by vampires FOR Cyrodiilic vampires. If that's the case, then anything else in ES would be untrustworthy.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:50 pm

How was the manifesto an untrustworthy source? it was written by vampires FOR Cyrodiilic vampires. If that's the case, then anything else in ES would be untrustworthy.
Because if they were really that secret they wouldn't write that information down. If a dozen clans could blend into human society it would be advantagious to make people believe it was only the Cyrodiilic clans who had that ability. Your assuming the author was actually a cyrodillic vampire. If the order as he described really existed it wouldn't write that information down.

Its also possible Cyrodillics is an organization that can contain multiple bloodlines. We never actually see the order despite seeing plenty of vampires behaving like animals through out Oblivion.

And in Daggerfall(the elder scrolls II) we have nine clans that could blend into human society. The information in the manifesto was never true to begin with thats why its not trustworthy it conflicted with established gameplay the moment it was written into the game.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:26 am

Because if they were really that secret they wouldn't write that information down. If a dozen clans could blend into human society it would be advantagious to make people believe it was only the Cyrodiilic clans who had that ability. Your assuming the author was actually a cyrodillic vampire. If the order as he described really existed it wouldn't write that information down.

Its also possible Cyrodillics is an organization that can contain multiple bloodlines. We never actually see the order despite seeing plenty of vampires behaving like animals through out Oblivion.

And in Daggerfall(the elder scrolls II) we have nine clans that could blend into human society. The information in the manifesto was never true to begin with thats why its not trustworthy it conflicted with established gameplay the moment it was written into the game.
There was a single book in the game world, hidden away in a vampire's dungeon. It was rare to begin with. You think the Order is going to waste time sitting down with new members to tell them how everything goes? They have an established system, and the book was written to further educate possible new vampires.

The Cyrodiilic vampires could be multiple blood lines. This much I agree with you. They could of been the Daggerfall vampires built into one single society. And the book itself implies their creation predates their arrival to Cyrodiil. So there is a chance you are correct.

The manifesto is trustworthy. Gameplay in Oblivion is what Immortal Blood says it is. You feed to appear human-like. Also, the vampire progenetor was also written down in the Manifesto as well, Lamae Beolfag. But I suppose that might be another far-fetched and false tale too, right?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:30 am

There was a single book in the game world, hidden away in a vampire's dungeon. It was rare to begin with. You think the Order is going to waste time sitting down with new members to tell them how everything goes? They have an established system, and the book was written to further educate possible new vampires.
When you have a society of great secrecy yes you sit them down and tell them. The order is supposed to blend into human society not live in holes like animals.

Or maybe the guy who wrote the Vile Lair didn't know anything about daggerfall and simply made a mistake in the writing.

The Cyrodiilic vampires could be multiple blood lines. This much I agree with you. They could of been the Daggerfall vampires built into one single society. And the book itself implies their creation predates their arrival to Cyrodiil. So there is a chance you are correct.
Its the only way to reconcile the fact that in a previous game we had nine seperate clans that could blend into human society with the claim the ability is unique to Cyrodillic. But those nine clans used a different mechanic you could always maintain your human guise feeding everyday was a requirement if you wanted to rest or even use the wait function.

The manifesto is trustworthy. Gameplay in Oblivion is what Immortal Blood says it is. You feed to appear human-like. Also, the vampire progenetor was also written down in the Manifesto as well, Lamae Beolfag. But I suppose that might be another far-fetched and false tale too, right?
Immortal Blood could have been written by a Volkihar vampire who didn't want anyone to know his kind could blend into human society the way Cyrodilic did. Gameplay in daggerfall conflicts with information written about them in the Vile Lair. Lastly its much easier to hide a lie within the truth then to sell complete BS.

The last possible explantion is the books are simply out of date, the manifesto assuming its author was Greywyn would have been written around 3E 321 when he build the Lair you find it in.(though it could be far older). If the Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum and Immortal Blood were penned two centuries before Oblivion takes place it make the information rather dated. But as it stands the information was inaccurate from the first day we read it.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:34 am

Scripted dragons that happen even if you haven't completed dragon rising? Apart from Alduin in the tutorial this doesn't happen, give me one example.

I imagine you will have to complete dragon rising to start this DLC questline.

Off the top of my head,
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the Skeletal Dragon inside Labryinthian comes to mind. I just encountered it yesterday, and my character hasn't progressed in the main quest since arriving in Riverwood.

I imagine there might be one or two more, though I admit I can't think of them readily.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:10 am

Has machinima uploaded a vid or anything?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:25 am

I know the thread will lock soon, but can anyone tell me (now or ASAP in the next thread) whether there are archived videos of E3 footage for Dawnguard? I didn't watch it live.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:29 am

I know the thread will lock soon, but can anyone tell me (now or ASAP in the next thread) whether there are archived videos of E3 footage for Dawnguard? I didn't watch it live.

If you are asking about the Machinima video specifically, it will eventually be posted http://www.youtube.com/user/machinima/videos

The other Dawnguard demos are all posted in the relevant threads.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:37 pm

If you are asking about the Machinima video specifically, it will eventually be posted http://www.youtube.com/user/machinima/videos

The other Dawnguard demos are all posted in the relevant threads.

Thanks :vaultboy: There are just so many threads that sifting through them has become something of a chore. Can you please either link me to other videos (if they exist [yet]) or point me in the direction of threads that contain these videos?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:26 am

Off the top of my head,
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the Skeletal Dragon inside Labryinthian comes to mind. I just encountered it yesterday, and my character hasn't progressed in the main quest since arriving in Riverwood.

I imagine there might be one or two more, though I admit I can't think of them readily.
That doesn't count, it's not a proper dragon that gives you a soul. There aren't any proper normal dragons that you encounter before dragon rising, apart from Alduin.

The DLC will likely require dragon rising to be completed.
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