Hey everyone. I've been reading about the new Kindle Fire and i was wondering what you all think of it. It seems to me that its an iPad of sorts, but its much cheaper than an iPad. Sure, there are probably things the iPad can do that the Fire can't, but I think it's the better deal. Thoughts?

I was actually considering one, until I found out it only had 6 GB of data storage available to the user. That's almost nothing. That basically forces you to buy digital content from Amazon so you can use cloud storage.

Still looks like a pretty good thing for internet browsing, but there's no telling how fast wireless kills the 8 hour battery.

The website information about it does say that the battery lasts 8 hours. However it notes that it only lasts 8 hours IF there is no wireless internet usage at all. So being on the internet with it all the time will most likely cut down on the battery life considerably.

1. It is not "an iPad of sorts" If iPad was a Macbook, then the Fire would be one of Acer's original Netbook offerings (that is to say, extremely cheaply made and extremely underpowered)

2. It's an underpowered tablet for basic web surfing and reading your kindle books.

3. Amazon pretty much stripped out all the advantages of an Android tablet by forking the Android source code

4. Ice Cream Sandwich will never run on it (because Amazon forked the source code)

5. Doesn't have full multitouch support

If you want "an iPad of sorts" you should look at the upcoming Transformer Prime

1. What do you mean it doesn't have multitouch support?

2. Would the new white iPod touch be better then this?

I said FULL multitouch support. The Fire cannot recognize more than 2 fingers, limiting gesture input.


The iPod touch is not a tablet

I'm not a fan of fake books. :shrug:

The current http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRpSuS1xRe4 commercial features visuals pertaining to the elements used in letterpress printing.
Being a hard core enthusiast and collector of this dying art form, I posted a link to this video on our letterpress printing forum.
We were not kind in our assessment concerning the details presented in the visuals included in the section featuring the letterpress elements.
My conclusion was that advertisers are not required to be correct. The only requirement here was to sell Kindles.
In addition, the section goes by so quickly, it's hard to pick out the details with casual viewing.
I won't bore you with the details...only know that they weren't concerned with appearing to be correct.

I am personally not interested in Kindles and the like, and I may not understand all of what they are capable of.....
...but, I will read a real book made of paper or simply view .pdf's on my computer, as I don't really require the mobility that they seem to offer.

That would be an ereader, not a tablet. A tablet is for mobile computing (many times more mobile than a laptop)

I'm not a fan of tablets either.

Honestly, we've got the smart phone and the laptop. Anything in between seems frivolous to me. Obviously that's just my opinion, don't think I'm hating on tablets.

So.... is there any point to this product?

Well, it can browse the internet. For maybe five hours before it needs recharging :whistling:

Laptops svck IMO, tablets are far more useful. They have an excellent battery life (the Transformer original has a 16 hour battery life with the dock, no laptop can touch that), bigger screen than smartphones, allow for content creation at a greater extent than smartphones, and are honned much better for content consumption than laptops.

I never plan on buying a laptop again. If I get the Transformer Prime (just waiting on some important benchmarks related to my planned use) I'm going to light my laptop on fire. Laptops battery life svcks, they svck at note-taking (compared to a tablet where http://campuslife.asus.com/index/4839/the-future-of-note-taking-how-supernote-works/), and are too bulky to be considered mobile (unless you get 13.3'' or smaller)

I can also remote into my desktop from anywhere in the world so long as I have an Internet connection and therefore would be able to access the full power of a desktop from a tablet.


cheap mobile web browsing, cheap mobile video watching, consolidate your ereader, (very) basic mobile content creation

All I want is a stupid phone that won't drop calls every other conversation.

You can blame urban cell tower density making manufactures decide to shrink antenna size in order to make their phones lighter/smaller. Usually there are instructions on the Internet for popular phones for methods of properly creating and attaching an extended antenna.

Thanks Defron...I'll look into it.

Kindle Fire is just Kindle, not iPad. Andriod [censored] had been hyping the news calling it an iPad killer when Amazon didn't tell a thing about it. It is in the end as I expected, a terminal device for Amazon services. If you don't use Amazon, it's not for you. If you are current Amazon customer, or planning to be one, it is most definately a great pick.

I am a regular customer of Amazon, but my interest is solely on ebooks, and I'm looking for a DX size kindle touch.

The Nook tablet is coming out in a couple of weeks, too. From the specs it looks like it is slightly more powerful then the Fire. B&N doesn't have the same kind of content library that Amazon has so it looks like the Nook will depend on other providers like Netflix and Hulu.

B&N searchability for ebook titles also svcks which is a major drawback. But I agree that the Nook is actually a better device - and - it supports color.

For $200, it looks pretty good to me. I've got one on pre-order. It does make sense to wait for the reviews of the new B&N color Nook, though, if you're not already tied to the Amazon ecoysystem.

Personally, the specs don't matter so much to me, especially with free storage on the Amazon cloud. I'll be using the Fire primarily for color cookbooks, magazines, and simple web surfing. I'll still use my eInk K3 for reading regular books.

There's also the option of getting a Nokia N9 (or one of the Windows phones they're releasing in places that don't get the N9, though I gather those will be inferior in processing power and stuff). Having a polycarbonate body greatly improves reception, and I can say from first hand experience that it has great call quality and all that :nod:. I'm also a bit of a Meego fan :hehe: (for various reasons that I won't go into here).

I recall having something else to say, but I forgot it .

About Kindle Fire?

BEHOLD! A real tablet:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour/ ($500)

12 Hour battery life + 6 with dock for a total of 18 hours of available battery life -- Nvidia says it'll get 12 hours of battery life watching constant 1080p video
32 GB internal memory (upgradable to 64 GB for an additional $100)
Guaranteed ICS update by year's end
An incredibly impressive 1280 x 800, Super IPS+ Gorilla Glass display
1 GB RAM
HDMI out, GPS, gyroscope, microSD (allowing for an additional 32 GB storage), 1.2 MP front-facing and 8MP back-facing camera

Dock (additional $150) adds:
already mentioned 6 hours additional battery life
full-sized USB port (allowing for additional storage)
Standard SD slot (allowing for an additional 64 GB storage)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/nvidia-says-tegra-3-is-a-pc-class-cpu-has-screenshots-to-prov/

Starting price of the iPad 2? $500 for 16 GB internal memory, not expandable through SD cards, no USB, not a quad core, not an IPS+ screen, not widescreen, only rated for 10 hours of standard use (not 12 hours of constant video watching), no keyboard dock (at least not as integrated as the Transformer's).

And of course it's completely laughable to compare the Kindle Fire to this beast of a machine.

No! Don't tempt me! I don't need a tablet! I don't!

18 hours battery life and Nvidia is going to be marketing their Tegra 3 chip for gaming means it'll be the first decent laptop-like gaming device. Oh, and since it'll get ICS it'll have full gamepad support if you want to use a controller instead of the screen, and of course you can just use they keyboard with a mouse if you prefer that.

:evil: :deal: