Lack of recognition for the defeat of Alduin.

Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:15 am

It could be worse. :biggrin:

"E-e-e-e-excuse me dragonborn..."
I think that was a bit TOO much, I could never see anyones normal dialogue ever again...
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Nadia Nad
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:44 pm

I hear you can shout. So you what...announce at the arena?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:58 am

You quoted me, didn't you read what you quoted?

When did I ever talk about how other people should feel about Superman or Heroes for that matter? Since you brought him up, Clark Kent does not dive into a phone booth thinking "Wow, the people are going to love me when I do this good deed"

What I am talking about is the OP is craving recognition for saving the world, I am saying that heroes don't do what they do for recognition. I have never said anything about what others should think or feel about a hero.

What I meant to say was my character, the hero I am playing does not have recognition in mind, he believes in humility above all else... But the player (myself) should at least see a difference on how the populace reacts to you saving the world from Alduin. It's a big event and it should eventually be known to the people, if not everywhere than at least in the towns/cities
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:00 am

It would be nice but hey that's life in skyrim.
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Benito Martinez
 
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:21 pm

Some kind of recognition would be good, even if it's just making all the annoying children stop being annoying. :P
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:52 am

So, I'm walking around skyrim and talking to people, they seem to have forgotten that I saved their asses. Does the word spread over time or something? Or is it just a fallible oversight on the game's behalf?
Talking to the Theive's guild, the people in whiterun, Windhelm, anywhere! I was expecting a grand reception of sorts, let alone a pat on the back... but nothing!
I remember that in Morrowind and Oblivion, when you defeated the archnemesis, you were proclaimed as a hero of all the land... so will the devs fix the sheer amount of apathy in the Skyrim land in some sort of future fix or DLC?

To answer your question, no Bethesda won't fix that problem. Because then they'd have to fix recognition for everything else, like when your the Guild Master of the College of Winterhold. The only magic school in Skyrim, and Farengar still doesn't know your the Guild Master. In fact, he doesn't even know your in the freaking college.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:21 am

I have to agree as well that the lack of recognition upon defeating Alduin is lame, even in Oblivion almost everybody knew that you stopped Dagon.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 pm

How would they even learn of your victory? It's not like the Dragonborn and Alduin come to blows smack dab in the middle of Solitude or anything - you team up with a bunch of dead guys in the afterlife and then quietly slip back into the realm of the living after landing the final punch. You pop up on top of a freaking mountain, of all places. The Greybeards know of Alduin's defeat because, well, they're the Greybeards and it's their mountain, but I doubt the old codgers can be bothered to trek down to the commonfolk and announce your feat. I'm not at all disappointed that nobody has a clue what I've done. In fact, I'd probably be disappointed if they DID know. Wouldn't exactly be realistic.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:20 am

How would they even learn of your victory? It's not like the Dragonborn and Alduin come to blows smack dab in the middle of Solitude or anything - you team up with a bunch of dead guys in the afterlife and then quietly slip back into the realm of the living after landing the final punch. You pop up on top of a freaking mountain, of all places. The Greybeards know of Alduin's defeat because, well, they're the Greybeards and it's their mountain, but I doubt the old codgers can be bothered to trek down to the commonfolk and announce your feat. I'm not at all disappointed that nobody has a clue what I've done. In fact, I'd probably be disappointed if they DID know. Wouldn't exactly be realistic.
But still, at that point you made a little dragon genocide happen, at least some peasant has to have seen it.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:22 pm

Lack of recognition in Skyrim?

No way.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 am

But still, at that point you made a little dragon genocide happen, at least some peasant has to have seen it.
I'll allow that maybe a peasant or two in Ivarstead would've squinted up at the Throat of the World and seen several vague shapes flying away from its peak, but peasants aren't the brightest of folk and I doubt they would've come to any earth-shattering conclusions about it. For whatever reason, dragons continue to appear even after you've slain Alduin. As far as everyone knows, nothing's changed.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:31 am

The thing is except for a handful of people noone knows that you are the dragonborn or that you killed alduin. There's no facebook, twitter or CNN in Skyrim so it's to be expected that the common people don't know your face.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:32 am

I'll allow that maybe a peasant or two in Ivarstead would've squinted up at the Throat of the World and seen several vague shapes flying away from its peak, but peasants aren't the brightest of folk and I doubt they would've come to any earth-shattering conclusions about it. For whatever reason, dragons continue to appear even after you've slain Alduin. As far as everyone knows, nothing's changed.
THe Dovahkiin still slew a dragon near Whiterun for everyone to see and during the MQ, he slew another one near Windhelm. People should know about him by then, no matter if Alduin is still alive or not.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:10 pm

I like the vagueness of these endings. While Oblivion gave you hero-status, and erected a freaking statue of you, Morrowind and Skyrim sort of let you be the hero while remaining anonymous. In Morrowind people acknowledge you, but you can't just walk into town and everyone will immediately know who you are and what you've done.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:36 am

The thing is except for a handful of people noone knows that you are the dragonborn or that you killed alduin. There's no facebook, twitter or CNN in Skyrim so it's to be expected that the common people don't know your face.

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I killed the initial dragon very early then fast traveled to Dawnstar right after the fight, they were already calling me Dragonborn.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:10 pm

Look, that red herring argument about "how would they know" needs to die.


U must be the new guy at the companions, what do you do..fetch the mead? (dawnstar)

I know who you are!...Praise sithis! (markarth, JUST joined...no missions)
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:34 pm

You may be the dragonborn, but you can't sing and you can't put a ball through a hoop or kick a ball over a line.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:14 am

I absolutely agree that it is pretty poorly done. I have been thinking of posting the same, also as it relates to some of the stupid dialogue. What's worse, is that word has indeed spread, because occasionally guards will say a very nice thank you...'No matter what else happens the guards will always remember what you did'. Or the one where they say something like you saved all of our lives and our very souls. Then you walk by that same guard a minute later and he says, "Let me guess someone stole your sweet roll', or, 'Cause any trouble and I will throw you in the dungeon myself.' That is just ridiculous, and should never, ever happen, especially when not only are you the Dragonborn but also the guys boss, aka, Thane of so and so, and he couldn't actually haul you into the dungeon if he tried....

Even without seeking adoration, the savior of everyone's life and very soul would be beyond a rock star. In the very least you should get a constant discount effect just like the Agent of Mara or Dibella effects.
I guess they were afraid the was a danger of removing any further motivation to do anything if you were to well adored and rewarded, but come on nothing whatsoever?

Ask Joe Namath if he ever bought a dinner or a drink anywhere in New York in the last 40 years.
Does Troy Aikman ever buy a beer when he goes out in Dallas? Hell no.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:10 am

I like the vagueness of these endings. While Oblivion gave you hero-status, and erected a freaking statue of you, Morrowind and Skyrim sort of let you be the hero while remaining anonymous. In Morrowind people acknowledge you, but you can't just walk into town and everyone will immediately know who you are and what you've done.
Right after Vivec proclaims you as Nerevar, you are considered as a messiah reborn, and it showed. EVERYONE knew about you, and even though there was no real reception, just talking to any random individual brings your popularity bar to 90. in Skyrim, everyone gives a slight nod in your direction, but only ONCE, and right after you're treated like a common lout all over again. That's a bit immersion-breaking. I don't know if that's a design oversight or what.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:47 am

THe Dovahkiin still slew a dragon near Whiterun for everyone to see and during the MQ, he slew another one near Windhelm. People should know about him by then, no matter if Alduin is still alive or not.
With my Dovahkiin, some guards near Whiterun slew a dragon. I just hid behind walls and absorbed the dragon's soul when it died. :P
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:18 pm

So, I'm walking around skyrim and talking to people, they seem to have forgotten that I saved their asses. Does the word spread over time or something? Or is it just a fallible oversight on the game's behalf?
Talking to the Theive's guild, the people in whiterun, Windhelm, anywhere! I was expecting a grand reception of sorts, let alone a pat on the back... but nothing!
I remember that in Morrowind and Oblivion, when you defeated the archnemesis, you were proclaimed as a hero of all the land... so will the devs fix the sheer amount of apathy in the Skyrim land in some sort of future fix or DLC?

you werent proclaimed hero of all the land... you wer eproclaimed hero of kvatch!... and i dont think this rly is a big deal.. is it? maybe im... under reacting cuz i dont stop to talk to guards...
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:12 am

you werent proclaimed hero of all the land... you wer eproclaimed hero of kvatch!...

actually you were named the Champion of Cyrodiil
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:01 am

actually you were named the Champion of Cyrodiil

Weird thing is, personally I have seen more people referring to our hero as the Hero of Kvatch than as the Champion of Cyrodiil. Probably because were are multiple Champions of Cyrodiil in history and there might only have been one Hero of Kvatch.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:01 am

Meh. It's not like defeating Alduin was all that big of an accomplishment anyways considering that the three heroes could have taken him down all by themselves, and Tsun could solo him.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:30 pm

Spoiler forum?
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