I don't have many shouts yet. But ethereal is a great idea. going to the throat of the world when I resume tonight, so whirlwind sprint will be an ample substitue for the time being. Thanks for all of the replies, folks!

Unrelenting force is what finally did the trick with me. Gotta love that range! I'm liking this character but he has vices I'm not quite used to yet. This forum is awesome though. Really thank you all for the advice.

And again sorry for the double post! It just sort of happens lol

i did find it weird that my spells, do no damage compared to dragons and mages spells on me, but im playing on master

Shield of Ysgramor gives +20% Magic Resistance (and +20 Health),

It's freeking huge, though.

That's the shield I plan on sticking with once I get it. Not just for the enchant but it's the shield of freaking Ysgramor. I'm a nord... it's just too fitting

Yeah, it is gigantic!! I used it with my Breton Warrior for doing the Imperial side of the War, after finishing the Companions Guild quest line. it replaced the smaller Solitude Shield for me. And in comparison, it made the Solitude one look like a Skirmishers shield.

Being a Breton with natural Magic resistance 25% & the Magic resistance on the shield 20% as well as the 50% Elemental protection Perk in block(for shield) , i was pretty immune to Magic.

But dont forget that takes away some of the fun from the game. My Breton Warrior is done & dusted now, i intend to try a 2H Nord or Orc at some stage, to balance out the fun with my Breton Mage.

You know, it boggles my mind that Bethesda doesn't allow a "Silence" enchantment for weapons... or even for a poison recipe. This right here would solve your problem.

Maybe they left it out for balance issues. I could easily see someone dual wilding with a "Silence" weapon in one hand and and some heavy damage weapon in the other. Mages wouldn't stand a chance against you...

Then again, as a Battlemage in Oblivion you could cast spells (including Silence) and wield a weapon at the same time.

Don't forget the three alteration perks for Magic Resist...

Theres a thing called the class trinity. every core class type has their strengths and weaknesses. Mages have the advantage of magic which things have little resistance to. Their downside is they dont use armor. Warriors have the advantage of massive damage output, and able to take lots of physical punishment, but have no real defence against magic. The ranger/rogue/thief tend to be in between with some physical protection and some magical protection.

This is true in nearly every RPG.

That is NOT true in this one, where there are no true classes. You can cherry pick the best things out of each traditional class type, and make it work. In fact, it's recommended you do so.

Learn some sneaky tricks and backstab the mages. Or stunlock them with power attacks. (not going to include the magic gear advice, since that has been covered up already)

If it's tactics you want, try and learn to dodge and weave a bit better, and carry a bow for mages. It may be more dangerous to get in there with physical blows than with tossing arrows at them. Since mages have low health anyways, you don't have to invest perks into it if you don't want to.

Shock spells can't be dodged like other spells though. They practically teleport to their targets instead of working like a projectile.

Ah but see this is where the " run and gun " tactic will come into play, if you rush em and zig,zag on your way to them you split the chance of being struck in half. This works for all FPS and Skyrim is like 1/4 FPS so from my experience as a warrior this tactic combined with all the gear advice should turn you into a mage killing tank.

Is there some rubber boots that make lightning 0% effective?

Yes, they are called the "Ash Ketchup boots of pikachu resistance."

(70% is the biggest you can find on a single piece, shield, necklace and boots iirc)

Yeah, player and NPC mages don't play by the same rules If player magic was like NPC magic, there would be complaining about how destruction makes other figthing styles obsolete

B-But I use lightning magic QQ

you can beat mages with 0 enchanting just using your perked shield.

Absolute nonsense. I can defeat a dungeon full of warlocks without enchanting. It's not easy, but it's not impossible, either.

IMO, using Become Ethereal is better than Unrelenting Force. I have wasted too many shouts on mages who happen to throw a ward up just in time to block it. Use a melee attack to come out of the shout, then use a shield bash to stagger. Repeat as necessary.

Yes, one word Become Ethereal is a great way to avoid high damage attacks.

No. The Trinity is the dumbed down version of MMO class breakdown. Tank, Healer, Nuker, Melee/DD. That's the classic 4 class MMO style. Tanks are not massive dmg outputters, they are damage sponges. There is nothing about them not being able to resist magic.

In fact, classic RPG classes before MMOs and TES, Warrior types usually have innate resistance to magic, as they don't understand it, use it, believe in it, so it really doesn't affect them much.

In Skyrim, what's stopping a Mage from wearing plate and using 2 Handers? Nothing.

You just mentioned using magic (shouts). Please re-read my post before disagreeing with it, since you actually don't disagree.

The 2nd part of my post is separate from the first. I rarely use shouts anymore and can clear a dungeon without them. Spellbreaker helps but is not necessary.

No one is claiming they *cant* clear a dungeon. It's laughably easy to do in Skyrim with any decent gear.

The issue is that without Enchanting, resist gear, Shield Perk, shouts. It's artificially harder.

What does that mean? It means that you can't really roleplay a Pure Fighter type, without taking a severe difficulty penalty. And that hurts roleplay. You spend your points on Health and STA and Weapons and Armor perks....

But because you don't have Enchanting, Smithing you are always weaker than someone who does. That's just how Skyrim works.,

(most of) The best Magic Resistance in the game comes from Smithing/Enchanting. Unless you specifically seek out some legendaries.

My toon is tricked out with resist gear and a shield. So I'm good. But I learned that the hard way.

Basically I'm not really playing a fighter, even tho like you I don't depend on shouts/magic much. I still have max enchanting and smithing gear on.

I also use health potions whenever I mess up. It's kinda cheese and not very RPG-ish / Balanced IMO