Lightning magic can shove it

Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:35 am

Alright my nord warrior is pretty damn strong if I do say so myself. I've been doing pretty good and haven't died but by one thing. Can you guess...?

Early on, I ran into a mage. And in maybe 2-3 shocks I was dead. Just like that. He didn't even break a sweat. This has happened on two different times. Again it just happened in some barrow. My character is much stronger now and I didn't think I could be killed so easily. Fire and ice do absolutely nothing to me. But electricity is its own deathwish.

How do pure warriors combat mages? Because it seems all of them decide to cut straight to the shock magic, and I'm roasted before I can get a hit off.

Besides enchants. Not that high of a level yet

Edit: Unless that's the only way ^
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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:36 am

well enchanting has magic resistance including shock shield.

Usually its the ice spikes that mess me up. You must just be very unlucky.
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Gracie Dugdale
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:20 am

Enchanted elemental resistances. At higher difficulty, they are almost a necessity of survival.
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Thomas LEON
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:24 am

You need resist magic and element equipment and potions, not that uncommon in loot. Also if you can stagger them they can't keep using magic, use power attacks and shouts.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:46 am

I use the Atronach Stone.
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Kellymarie Heppell
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:30 am

Atronach, Lord Stone,
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Do the Mara Temple for 15% magic resist, and Hircine's quest, Hide gives 15%.

And if you don't like Alchemy yourself, you can always buy resist potions if you don't find them.
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Rob Davidson
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:55 am

Mages are the only reason i use alchemy and thats just to make damage magica/ damage magica regeneration spells then equipt them to my bow. Ii guess if i had a higher archery i wouldn't need the potions to take them out but my char right now doesn't use archery that much except for hunting deer.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:00 am

the atronach stone+atronach perk=80% absorb magic
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:27 pm

Ethereal shout, close to melee range, sword attack and shield bash, profit! I hate lightning mages!
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:10 am

Ethereal shout, close to melee range, sword attack and shield bash, profit! I hate lightning mages!

This.

I use Ethereal to close ranks with archers and mages constantly. The 1st level (one word) shout is the best because it charges very quickly and gives you enough time to sprint to a target.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:12 am

Doesn't shield tree give you a perk that allows 50% resistence to elemental damage while blocking. My shield & blunt build is pretty much invincible against mages. He actually had more trouble against melee builds.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:28 pm

On my warrior I have the Lord stone and I always carry a good amount of resistance gear with me.
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Valerie Marie
 
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:11 am

It's impossible. Every good advice in this thread is about using magic, enchanting, stones or shouts.

Shouts are just magic on a different button.

unfortunately you simply noticed what we've been complaining about for a long time. There is no balance in this game for combat. There are just "easy button" configurations of your toon.

If you max enchanting and use the right shouts, you can never die.

If you try to keep it real, mages willl destroy you since they have INFINITE MAGIC POWER and you have ZERO innate resistance.

With Enchanting, Shield Perk, Potions, Shouts, etc.. you can be a complete beast.

But play it straight up? You'll get smacked down for being honest. That is the nature of Skyrim. Cheaters always win.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:14 am

I find combining both resist magic and resist element( fire,ice,lightning) nullifies the damage received, I will do this for my shield and a piece of armor. It also softens the impact that dragons have( so it seems ). Spellbreaker is a great tool to use against those magical mobs.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:36 pm

FUS RO DAH!... No. Actually just FUS!

Hitting them with FUS will make them stagger, but not fall down. The stagger will break their spell casting for a moment allowing you to get closer. More importantly is that using FUS only means it will recharge much faster than a full FUS RO DAH.

Also unlock the Elemental Protection perk for the Block skill as soon as possible!
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:51 am

Doesn't shield tree give you a perk that allows 50% resistence to elemental damage while blocking. My shield & blunt build is pretty much invincible against mages. He actually had more trouble against melee builds.

You are not truly invincible untill you have that perk + Spellbreaker. Mages literaly cannot touch me, because even if Spellbreaker's ward shatters, I can get it back into place fast enough to still block their next spell.

Actually reading some of the other posts, it seems no one pays attention to the Spellbreaker now, even though it has become a must have for any shield using warrior, imo. I am beyond happy with this version compared to Oblivions.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:40 am

If you try to keep it real, mages willl destroy you since they have INFINITE MAGIC POWER and you have ZERO innate resistance.

Back in the old days we had willpower attribute that allowed to resist magic naturally. In Skyrim you have health. If you die, you have chosen red too few times :hehe: (And NPC mages do not have infinite magicka, just a damn lot of it :whisper:)
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:49 am

It's impossible. Every good advice in this thread is about using magic, enchanting, stones or shouts.

Shouts are just magic on a different button.

unfortunately you simply noticed what we've been complaining about for a long time. There is no balance in this game for combat. There are just "easy button" configurations of your toon.

If you max enchanting and use the right shouts, you can never die.

If you try to keep it real, mages willl destroy you since they have INFINITE MAGIC POWER and you have ZERO innate resistance.

With Enchanting, Shield Perk, Potions, Shouts, etc.. you can be a complete beast.

But play it straight up? You'll get smacked down for being honest. That is the nature of Skyrim. Cheaters always win.

?

Are you suggesting that warriors should have something innate that lets them resist magical damage? Without using perks, enchanting, potions, shouts, or... anything?
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:08 am

?

Are you suggesting that warriors should have something innate that lets them resist magical damage? Without using perks, enchanting, potions, shouts, or... anything?

"Reflex save against lightining: 20 + 5 vs DC 23: Success" comes to mind :hehe: But of course Bethesda's games have never had rules like that.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:07 am

unfortunately you simply noticed what we've been complaining about for a long time. There is no balance in this game for combat. There are just "easy button" configurations of your toon.

. . .

But play it straight up? You'll get smacked down for being honest. That is the nature of Skyrim. Cheaters always win.

So essentially you're saying the game is unbalanced because you can't just walk into a room and start beating things down? Because you have to actually use strategy?

On topic, my bane has always been the frost mages. Whenever I run into one I usually find myself turned into a corpsicle. I figure dealing with lightning mages shouldn't be too much different. I traditionally follow this three-step method: Step 1, Get surprised by the mage and charge him in a headlong rush; Step 2, Reload the last save; Step 3, Use Fus-Ro-Dah to knock him over and then just mercilessly hack him to death while he's getting up . . . although, if he's got friends around I usually just run around in circles and pray that I don't get blasted before I can kill him. It turns out that enemies make very convenient shields if you can get 'em between you and the mage.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:21 pm

You are not truly invincible untill you have that perk + Spellbreaker. Mages literaly cannot touch me, because even if Spellbreaker's ward shatters, I can get it back into place fast enough to still block their next spell.

Actually reading some of the other posts, it seems no one pays attention to the Spellbreaker now, even though it has become a must have for any shield using warrior, imo. I am beyond happy with this version compared to Oblivions.

I haven't forgotten bout it :biggrin:

I find combining both resist magic and resist element( fire,ice,lightning) nullifies the damage received, I will do this for my shield and a piece of armor. It also softens the impact that dragons have( so it seems ). Spellbreaker is a great tool to use against those magical mobs.

It is a really good tool for a warrior to have, only the magically inclined have a chance of besting me and that's if I'm using two weapons instead of spellbreaker with a weapon. :banana:
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:54 pm

u MUST use resistance:

1-potions
2-enchants
3-wards
4-birth signs

pick on or all...

the deadly thing about lightning (my favorite skill of course) is that its almost instant hit, unlike fire and ice which can be dodged if your fast enough, so u do need lightning resistance to survive on higher level/difficulty.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:12 am

The Lord Stone + Agent of Mara + 1 point into Magic Resistance in the Alteration tree does it. I used to be a fan of the Atronach, but because it completely bugs out summons/weapon summons/summon shouts and other things *and has yet to be fixed still......* i changed to Lord + Mara perk from Riften, that way it doesnt break the game *having Dragon breaths be completely absorbed made Dragons that much more lame.*
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:12 am

Lord stone + Agent of Mara + Shield of Solitude or Spellbreaker shield + some well timed shouts. I never bothered to do elemental resistance enchants on my gear.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:32 am

My warrior is Breton since they have built in magic resistance. I took the lord stone for the magic and damage resist. Now mages are no more of a problem than melee. It doesn't remove all the damage but makes it feel more fair.

As for attacking mages on a warrior, you can't fear them. Speed is essential. Sprint straight to them and interrupt them any way you can. Shield bash works extremely well but Fus if you need to then bash them and start swinging. If you can get them cornered it's even easier.
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