There's no job I can get near me that pays very well. I suppose there's one or two, but with my health conditions I can't work them. Meaning a commute, not a long one. But enough to be a hassle. I don't have a car so taking this bus is needed. But any job I could hope to get would easily take 30-40% of what I might earn to keep using the bus. No there's nothing traditional here, hence why I've decided to use this time to write a book. I do have enough for a car, but you need to know when to get a car. At this point it seems rather futile with my insurance easily being over 5k. Then gas for the year, and any other break downs, and the car itself. Yea... I'll stick to the living with the grandparent thing. Big enough house now that everyone left, so it's not like we're crammed together. Not to mention in his advanced age he often needs lots of help. We can both cook, and I can help him do newer thing involving computers ect. So it all works out. Then again living on a reserve the standard mode of living isn't the nuclear family, but an extended one.

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I've been to the college, and I got ripped off out of my degree. University I tried and failed because I had no car. The long hours and bus rides were killing me, probably literally going to kill me. Those late night bus stops are rough, after getting the splatter of puke all over me from two sick people and witnessing several people being beaten I decide perhaps now wasn't the right time for University.

I live in a single wide trailer so Homeowner Insurance is out, we pay the garbage bill, no water bills because it's a well (but lose the electricity and you're SoL---literallty) and with our combine income we pay the property tax every two years, no sewer fees but we pay to drain our septic tank but we only have to do that every three years. Me and my father split the bills 50/50 plus I do help out with the rent (we on a rent to own type of deal with the landlord), food, electric and cable (includes phone and internet service).

Good grief, in Britain you'd be considered legally homeless.

I think if you haven't moved out of your parents' house by your late 20s/early 30s then you're not trying hard enough. If you have to move back in with them because of some unforeseen circumstances then that's different. I moved out as soon as I was old enough, I couldn't wait.

:rofl:

Sadly fate never dealt me a good hand when I was a kid (bad schools getting bullied all the time plus having a disability doesn't help either) and it still continues to this day. That way living with one's parents does have it's advantages. I mean if you're trying to survive then you got to do what you got to do, it may keep me single for the rest of my days but---that's life. Not everyone who grows up are successful and rich, sometimes you grow up and live in poverty no matter how hard you try to make it :shrug: .

The norwegian state pays my bill. Never moving back again.

Nothing is bad living at home with your parents while your trying to go to school and or look for a job.

I go to school and I'm 23. I lived on my own and it svcked pretty bad. My roommates svcked and rent was expensive as hell. It was good for the first few months, but they became slobs. I then moved back in with my parents and they were fine with it. I don't pay rent but my house was long payed for. So the only thing is utilities that I use. I usually feed myself but my parents don't mind cooking and when they do we always have a lot of leftovers. I actually live upstairs and they live downstairs so it's not like they're always bugging me. I go to school about minutes away but I take the bus so it's over 2 hours total commute. I also have a part time job so I am very seldom at home. Nobody really makes fun of me for living at home because most of my friends live at home as well or they have wealthy parents.

I'm 24 and living with my parents. I haven't always - I lived on my own most of the time through college.

I work full time, I pay my parents rent monthly (less than if I was paying for my own place, but still a decent amount). I cook my own meals (and often cook for my family too), I clean, I do my own laundry. The reason I live with my parents at the moment is because in about 6-7 months my girlfriend will be finished college and we are going to get our own place immediately. Just the two of us in a decent, affordable apartment. Until then, it's more economical to live with my parents and save as much money as I can.

To be honest, I rather live with my mom/dad (mom currently) than to be on my own. Unless I had a girlfriend to live with or live with me, of course, that had stable income as well (though that's not inherently necessary, I'd prefer it). Simply because when you can split bills, you have more money for yourself, to buy things you enjoy. Sure being alone is great and all, but living alone and not being able to afford your hobbies is not really all that great. There's other things I rather have in life, and the freedom of living alone isn't at the top of that list.

I don't think I look down on people who still live at home, but I definitely cannot relate to that situation. I moved out of my parents house at 18 and exactly one week after graduating High School. I packed up all my stuff in the back of my car and moved to a small town about 2000 miles away. None of that coming home every weekend to do laundry and get a home cooked meal stuff for me, I've done my own laundry from the age of 9 and by the time I was 14 I was a better cook than my Mom so that idea never really appealed to me. I gave college a brief try but quickly came to realize that I was spending all that time and money I didn't have for someone I didn't like to lecture me about stuff I didn't care about just to get a piece of paper that wouldn't mean anything anyway. I put my focus on work and have never regretted the choice. I paid my own rent and bills, I traded in the old car my parents got for me and bought one for myself. I still go back home but only to visit and I have never asked my parents for money to help out with any of my bills. It hasn't always been easy but I have always found a way to make it. When I first got married I was "in-between jobs" and I had an arrangement worked out with my landlord that I would happily do the grunt work on some of his other properties in exchange for some leeway on the monthly rent. I spent many months mowing lawns, cleaning houses, fixing roofs, fixing plumbing, rewiring electrical boxes and I even helped serve a few eviction notices, I hated it but it helped get us by until I found a real job.

All the people living with their parents are either a bit lazier than me or a hell of a lot smarter, I suspect the latter because I know me.

People who leave there parents homes at an early age tend to struggle with money. Well that's what most say. A friend of mine left at 18/19 I don't think he’s paid for a meal yet. He’s lucky he has friends.... Me. I don't look down at people who do. Only people who are at an older age. Lets say 24-27. I watched an Anderson show for once These two guys, both 27 live in there parents homes. One has the basemant finished for himself. He was talking about where in the states where people won't gtfo of there homes and stay in the nest way to long.

I still live with my parents. My dad is going to kill himself if I don't leave. We will see how it goes. My mom likes me around when my Dad is off to work for a few months. I'm the man around the housr to fix everything when hes gone. Go ahead and mock me.

Go out young and you become a bottom feeder, Go out when the is right and you can feed yourself .

I think the big reason americans oppose advlts living with their parents so heartily is that for generations our economy was so strong that it was very easy for 18 year olds with no qualifications to support themselves immediately after leaving high school. As such, anyone who didn't was either lazy or a failure. Now, with housing costs incredibly high and jobs extremely difficult to find many people can't support themselves after high school or even college, through little fault of their own, but the stigma remains.


...i live with my parents. :sadvaultboy:

Depends on whether or not the person is making any attempt to get out on their own. I think it's healthy to get into one's own place, but I don't think there's necessarily a cutoff age. If someone's in their 30's and making no attempt at all to be independent it starts getting weird, though. There's also no excuse for being a leech, either, unless your parents are loaded. If you're over 18 and living at home you should be pulling your weight somehow, IMO.

I work on weekends and attend college on working days. I will not have a winter vacation, and after the next semester I will not have a summer vacation. At best during winters and summers I am only allowed to work 6 days of the week so I at least get one day of the week off at the holidays.

I asked my mom if she thought I could move into a place of my own by myself if I worked hard, she said no...

/sigh


-------signed: Leeching-of-his-parents-at-the-age-of-18

It's so hard to get started on your own that living with parents when you're younger is normal now. I've got friends who I know moved out the same time I did (19), but due to the economy and redundancy have had to move back home and try again. Nothing wrong with that at all. It's not that generation who [censored] the economy after all.

The people I do honestly look down on though are the people who don't even try. No actually, I don't look down on them, I just don't understand them. Take this guy at work - he works full time (on a good wage), he's been there for years, and he still lives at home. He's in his 40s. 40s.
I also met a guy at a bar not long ago who was 30 and lived with his Mum because he didn't have to do housework that way. That's just sad.

The stigma comes from the fact that women don't like a man who lives with his parents. They see him as a loser, a weirdo or a mamma boy. It's the same stigma that surrounds baldness, or premature ejaculation, or having a small [censored], or working a low paying job. If it's perceived that it makes you less attractive to women then there's a stigma.

The fact of the matter is that the financial realities of this day and age have forced people to either stay at home or move back. There is no way in hell I could ever afford my own home, so I helped my parents buy theirs, which I will inherit. It makes a lot of sense. But I also feel that it's important to spend some time out on your own, to spread your wings and whatnot. I never moved out and I feel it's stunted me somewhat. I don't feel like a grownup in some ways. It's not just because of that, but it's bound to be a part of it.

Don't you think it goes both ways? I mean, if you are genuinely having a hard time of it then fair enough, but if you were talking to an advlt woman who still lived at home because that way Daddy pays for everything, wouldn't you be turned off? From what I've experienced, people of both sixes who use their parents like that tend to be looking for someone else who will take care of them as opposed to doing anything for themselves. Obviously this doesn't include people who are just hard up or saving money for a deposit, this is just people who would rather not have to act like an advlt for as long as possible.