Is CK modding and Nexus modding incompatible?

Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:07 am

Pretty much this, I actually see the workshop as an very good think, all the time since Morrowind the creation set has always been an sort of free bonus for fans game who was given away because it was just a couple hours work to modify, package and release it.
It was close to not being released for Fallout simply as it was another game series.

With the workshop they takes this mainstreams and are pretty much committed, yes it will be popular, most buyers of Skyrim on PC don't use mods but now it get simple enough for everybody. Chances for no CK in TES 6 or Fallout 4 is very microscopic.

Why does they do this, 1) keep fans interested in the game longer, they helps selling it.2) anti piracy steam Workshop require an registered game, yes it's possible to download mod other places but it require some knowledge.

Knowledge is a virtue!

Lets create something for "dumb" people is wrong philosophy.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 7:08 pm

I assure you I'm not changing anything from their defaults, and I've changed nothing in my settings. The problem occurs when I do a simple copy and paste from text in the thread to my own hand-written quote tags in a reply. It changes the background colour and font type automatically and it becomes extremely hard to change everything back to default afterwards.

Really dislike WYSIWYG editors on forums but can't find an option to turn it off.
Ah right, that annoying thing XD Well, you can turn off the WYSIWYG editor though. On the edit window, the very top left icon which looks like a light switch does that. And it seems to stick too.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:51 pm

I wish people would stop assuming that the CS and Workshop is/will be superior to nexus.

The one thing that the CS/Steamshop do better is uploading in a go, but no one has considered that some mods might need cleaning after creating.
Some will be full of bad-ref's.

Faster and easier does not mean better.

Nexus has come a long way, and will be there after the dust has settled.
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Post » Tue May 22, 2012 1:12 am

I wish people would stop assuming that the CS and Workshop is/will be superior to nexus.

The one thing that the CS/Steamshop do better is uploading in a go, but no one has considered that some mods might need cleaning after creating.
Some will be full of bad-ref's.

Faster and easier does not mean better.

Nexus has come a long way, and will be there after the dust has settled.

I couldn't agree more with this. I mean basically, I've never had a problem using Nexus that I've had to literally create a forum account and ask someone for help. Hell, the CK made me do this account in the first place; but that's out of the topic.

Just because it sounds nifty to auto-update your mods doesn't mean it should be the way to go, at least any good modder would tell you that because well, to be honest the manual handling of one's files is always superior to any sort of automatic system, imho. We should wait to see what the SW will bring in order to make Auto-Updates a lot more secure and possibly avoid conflicts, but as I see it, it could only bring joy to those who use simple mods instead of the more complicated few out there.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:28 am

I don't think that dynamic is going to change. bethesda have not really shown any interest in trying to sell player mods, and it looks like featured mods will still be determined by user votes just like Nexus. The only real difference is where the files are stored and what features each service adds. I don't think they have any malicious intent, they're just trying to do something to make mods more accessible to Mr. average joe who never goes anywhere on the internet except to check his yahoo mail. Bethesda isn't some big bad corporation out to steal your content. They want the community to expand just as much as we do. Every satisfied player is pretty much a guaranteed sale of their next game, with likely word of mouth advertising to boot. Skyrim wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the cult following of Morrowind.


Nope theyre a big bad company who couldnt hit a release date if it was dancing naked in front of them wearing a melon as a hat

ahhh well hopefully the ck will be out today and ill be able to fail my exams because im busy modding
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 3:09 pm

Knowledge is a virtue!

Lets create something for "dumb" people is wrong philosophy.

And considering google-ing "Skyrims mods" will take you to the Nexus straight off the top of the list AND that Nexus has a download manager that will download, install, and even help you update the mods, those would have to be some pretty dumb people.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 8:11 pm

And considering google-ing "Skyrims mods" will take you to the Nexus straight off the top of the list AND that Nexus has a download manager that will download, install, and even help you update the mods, those would have to be some pretty dumb people.

Hahah, true. Am I dumb for not using the Nexus Download Manager, though? I never got around to actually using it...
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 9:06 am

I assure you I'm not changing anything from their defaults, and I've changed nothing in my settings. The problem occurs when I do a simple copy and paste from text in the thread to my own hand-written quote tags in a reply. It changes the background colour and font type automatically and it becomes extremely hard to change everything back to default afterwards.

Really dislike WYSIWYG editors on forums but can't find an option to turn it off.
The little box with n at the top left of the editor when you start typing. Don't know how to turn it off by default, but that's how to turn it off.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 10:11 pm

Hahah, true. Am I dumb for not using the Nexus Download Manager, though? I never got around to actually using it...
I always assumed NMM was for dumb people...
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 5:41 pm

Considering how several modders I know loathe Nexus and won't upload there, one even claiming SW exclusively I guess you'll miss out on mods. To me Nexus is already to big with the associated traits. Those things happen but I don't see it as the holy grail of modsites because of it's size.

I think the SW can really add an easy entrance to modding for a lot of people and it will work great for the simpler mods. Combine that with uploading directly from the CS and I say it has strong footing for offering a service Nexus will never do.

there are other sites than nexus, but If its steam exclusive, he probably won't be the only one not downloading mods from modders that won't go anywhere else. Quite frankly, no one is that special to begin with. As soon as the ck is downloaded steam in back offline on my puter and its going to stay that way permenately, I won't even know what i'll be missing, and thats ok with me :biggrin:
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 3:11 pm

I always assumed NMM was for dumb people...

well i'm pretty dumb and i've never used it. Still like doing it the old fashioned way.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 10:29 am

well i'm pretty dumb and i've never used it. Still like doing it the old fashioned way.
Saame. I like to know what the fudge I'm putting into my drive.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 12:07 pm

there are other sites than nexus, but If its steam exclusive, he probably won't be the only one not downloading mods from modders that won't go anywhere else. Quite frankly, no one is that special to begin with. As soon as the ck is downloaded steam in back offline on my puter and its going to stay that way permenately, I won't even know what i'll be missing, and thats ok with me :biggrin:

This. If I refuse to use the SW, I won't even know what I'm missing. Nothing about it interests me. I don't want dirty mods, I want 100% control over installation, and I don't want anything censored.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 8:58 pm

I'm not sure why people are doing that. I can't see any way pre-CK mods wouldn't be able to run alongside any other mods just because of the fact that they weren't made with the CK.

ignorant perfectionists perhaps?
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 12:14 pm

... one thing (I think) is for sure: the SW will provide a great service in that all the "my very first house mod" and all the "my very first re-texture mod" will all end up in there :)
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 4:47 pm

I always assumed NMM was for dumb people...

Not "dumb", just for the newbies. Wrye Bash is the big boys' mod manager :hehe:

Funny thing about WB is that BAIN makes mod installation foolproof, but fools don't know how to use it :P
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:40 pm

Really. That's a rather subjective opinion, not even considering that the Steam Workshop hasn't even been released yet.
Don't be silly, there is no such thing as subjectivity.

Glad we have answered the OP's question thoroughly, m8s
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 1:54 pm

Don't be silly, there is no such thing as subjectivity.

Glad we have answered the OP's question thoroughly, m8s

Never let the OP get in the way of a good Steam flame war.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 6:16 pm

Never let the OP get in the way of a good Steam flame war.
:ahhh:
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:18 am

Most likely!
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 11:46 pm

And considering google-ing "Skyrims mods" will take you to the Nexus straight off the top of the list AND that Nexus has a download manager that will download, install, and even help you update the mods, those would have to be some pretty dumb people.

Nexus download manager!? What's that?

I never use that kind of software, btw.

And that's optional as far as i know.
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 3:30 pm

Why would I want to use the NMM when I have Bash?
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Post » Mon May 21, 2012 6:44 pm

False. No matter where you get your Skyrim mods, they will be useable.

So... doesn't matter which site you get your mods from. Nexus > Steam workshop by the way.

Just remember that if you're grabbing mods from Steam, you'll need to be in online mode and have grabbed the latest title update for the game.
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