We need the ability to shape shift. : V

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:39 pm

It feels like the only thing that this game is missing (Magic wise) is the ability to shape shift, considering you can play as anything using console commands I see no reason not to do it. All it needs is a little tweak here and there and a skill tree.

Anyone agree this would be badass?

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:00 am

you can shapeshift into a werewolf if you want to

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:04 pm

It feels like the only thing that this game is missing (Magic wise) is the ability to shape shift, considering you can play as anything using console commands I see no reason not to do it. All it needs is a little tweak here and there and a skill tree.

Anyone agree this would be badass?

This makes sense as part of Alteration.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:34 pm

Become erethral.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:44 pm

you can shapeshift into a werewolf if you want to

Thats only one thing and its a daily power. We need an entire tree for it.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:45 pm

TES is completely missing nature-based classes and spells. No clue why.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:56 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been anything in TES lore to suggest shapeshifting is possible, other than into were-forms.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:11 pm

Lichform: While in this form all melee attacks carry the absorb life ability (effectiveness goverened by Alteration skill and damage dealt). Frost Spells deal 1.5% more damage with the chance of freezing your targets in a block of ice. Lichform will levitate bypassing pressure plates and allowing you to walk on water. Lichform also grants you 4 unique spells however while in this form your Magicka regen is lowered by 50% and you take more damage from Fire based spells.

etc.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:30 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been anything in TES lore to suggest shapeshifting is possible, other than into were-forms.

This.

I would like it if they added werebears though, more variety.

The alteration magic school should be able to do a lot more than available now IMO, e.g. fortify combat skills, water walking or creating a physical barrier blocking the enemy. Just some ideas.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:07 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's ever been anything in TES lore to suggest shapeshifting is possible, other than into were-forms.

Excuse me if I'm wrong but I don't believe there was anything in TES lore until Skyrim to suggest Shouting was possible.

A simple expansion could make it work, there's a lot of potential for a story arc involving it.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:47 am

What would you want to shape into and for what reason?

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:56 pm

What would you want to shape into and for what reason?

Well I assume there would be different forms for different effects; anything from shape-shifting into a chicken to be undetectable to being a dragon to bring on the pain.

Bethesda is creative, I'm pretty sure they could come up with hundreds of possibles.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:00 am

Bethesda is creative

What?

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:12 am

Bosmer can, if we follow the Lore. Ever heard of the Wild Hunt?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Wild_Hunt

Edit: Enlargening a bit so people will notice.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:25 pm

What?

I said Bethesda is creative.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:26 pm

I said Bethesda is creative.

Yes they are, and don't let other tell you otherwise.
They got the deepest lore I've ever seen in a game that isn't based on a book.

Stories in their world, about the Dwemer, their enslavement of the Falmer effectively crooking them to bestial forms, the creation, all the phanteons, CHIM...
You name it.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:15 am

there is nothing in the lore that says it is impossible to shapeshift, but lets fix the spell system (bring back all the missing spells from oblivion and morrowind) before adding something to it

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:51 am

Well I assume there would be different forms for different effects; anything from shape-shifting into a chicken to be undetectable to being a dragon to bring on the pain.

Bethesda is creative, I'm pretty sure they could come up with hundreds of possibles.

fine with the first line but the second? they'd give us bear, spider, wolf at best and possibly the atronachs as a master

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:17 pm

Bosmer can, if we follow the Lore. Ever heard of the Wild Hunt?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Wild_Hunt

Edit: Enlargening a bit so people will notice.

As if I needed any more reasons to avoid Bosmers like the plague. I bet all of them are like Glarthir. A shape-shifting Glarthir.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:21 pm

As if I needed any more reasons to avoid Bosmers like the plague. I bet all of them are like Glarthir. A shape-shifting Glarthir.

Ugh. Don't remind me of him.
Big nutty that one.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:53 am

Ugh. Don't remind me of him.
Big nutty that one.

Well... At least he wasn't a Valen Dreth. That's something.

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:48 pm

Well... At least he wasn't a Valen Dreth. That's something.

I actually met a Dreth in Riften. Coincidence?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Romlyn_Dreth

» Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:58 pm

there is nothing in the lore that says it is impossible to shapeshift, but lets fix the spell system (bring back all the missing spells from oblivion and morrowind) before adding something to it

THIS!
And don't forget spellmaking.

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:31 am

I actually met a Dreth in Riften. Coincidence?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Romlyn_Dreth

Uh, oh... I'm suspecting foul play. Elves live for a long time, long enough to see both the Oblivion crysis and dragons. What if Dreth faked his death back in Cyrodiil, escaped the prison, changed name and fled to Skyrim? Wouldn't put past him.That means one thing. I have to wait for the CK to come out, edit in a marriage option for him and get engaged. Nothing more cruel for a Dunmer than getting to be the personal cook and house slave of an Argonian. :cool:

» Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:24 am

THIS!
And don't forget spellmaking.

of course, all the mages need spell making :nod: