Oblivion vs. Skyrim?

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:45 pm

Don't get me wrong, i really like Skyrim... All 200 hours of it, for now...
Once i played a couple of hours Oblivion... But lost my saved data and didn't want to start over...
So how different is Oblivion? Bought it again but wasn't sure to start cause i kinda hate "outdated" games...
Spoilers are ok... And how does Thief/Rogue/Assassin do?
Thx for your answers and have a good one... :D
User avatar
Mistress trades Melissa
 
Posts: 3464
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:28 pm

Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:32 am

Skyrim has less armour slots.
Oblivion.
User avatar
Shianne Donato
 
Posts: 3422
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:55 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:50 pm

So have you played any of the previous TES series games? The Skill and Level engine is completely different; it has been maturing over the series. This system may be an improvement... Each in the series continues the overall story. Skyrim makes mention of this several times but it obviously isn't required to play any of the previous games.

I have played Oblivion numerous times, including just before Skyrim was released. Personally, I became so annoyed at the overuse of character voices and dialog, what, maybe 6 actors for the entire range of characters? Bethesda, hasn't changed much in this episode either.
User avatar
Cccurly
 
Posts: 3381
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:18 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:24 pm

I really can't compare the two. Skyrim just seems like the next Oblivion, and both are equally great in my opinion. Oblivion was my first ES game so of course there is some nostalgia, and I find myself wishing to see some of the Oblivion cities with updated graphics, etc. But I do love Skyrim, and I love the story of Skyrim more than Oblivion's. I guess you can nitpick about the small details that makes one better than the other, but as an overall picture, they're the same to me, two great games.
User avatar
Shirley BEltran
 
Posts: 3450
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:14 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:50 pm

I really can't compare the two. Skyrim just seems like the next Oblivion, and both are equally great in my opinion. Oblivion was my first ES game so of course there is some nostalgia, and I find myself wishing to see some of the Oblivion cities with updated graphics, etc. But I do love Skyrim, and I love the story of Skyrim more than Oblivion's. I guess you can nitpick about the small details that makes one better than the other, but as an overall picture, they're the same to me, two great games.
Agreed. Adding: the two things which I think makes Oblivion more "superior" to Skyrim are

1) the larger cities and dungeons. The surface city areas in the Cyrodill land mass was HUGE. The population density was far greater. But that was because of the TES story line and era (Oblivion was the TES era that represented the height of Imperial culture and influence). This more than doubled the areas for exploration compared to Skyrim.

In Skyrim, the Empire is in decline, and the Imperial technology/culture which made the high density populations of Cyrodil plausible are abesent in Nord culture. The anology is how Ancient Rome had population density on the order of a millon, compared to the largest barbarian town (like the Gauls/Visgoths etc) which numbered less than 100 souls. The inhospitable climate also plays a big factor in population control in Skyrim. So the sparse populations in the even sparser towns and major holds reflect that.

Like Oblivion, you can also free roam in Skyrim--but a lot of the open sandbox/non questing game play has been now limited to random world/in town encouters. In Oblivion, you could spend hours ransacking NPC homes all across Cyrodill---regarless of whether you were in the TG or not---in addition to the loot you'd get from dungeon crawling. In Skyrim, this looting is more limited to dungeon crawling, and here you have to be careful not to break/disrupt sideline/miscellaneous or even main quests. In Oblivion, you could also kill wantonly regardless of whether you were in the DB or not. The major difference in Oblivion was that doing so had extreme consequences (i.e. suffering the Wrath of Sithis) if you broke the rules. No such severe consequences in Skyrim.

So from the open sandbox aspect, I think Oblivion gave you a LOT more options for open sandbox exploration due to the expansive citiy/town areas when not questing. And don't forget Oblivion gameplay features like betting and fighting in the Arena which can't be beat.

2) The magic system was more complex and superior in Oblivion (in terms of the number of spells you could cast, perks etc). And Morrowind was even far more superior in the magic gameplay. The downside was the race/class character type you were limited to playing. In order to enjoy the best experience that the magic system in Oblivion (and especially Morrowind) provided, you were somewhat limited to playing the Elven races---particularly the Altmer and then Dunmer Elven Mages. Based on racial stats, these race/class mixes seemed to optimize playing a magical character in these games.
User avatar
RAww DInsaww
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:47 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:20 pm

Lol i knew one of these threads would pop up. :dry: Well Skyrim i guess.
User avatar
Naomi Lastname
 
Posts: 3390
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:21 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:44 pm

The biggest turn off in oblivion was the skill manipulation you had to do to get the most out of level ups. I a consider myself 20% role player 80% min-maxer but this was a huge pain the rear to have to manage every level.
the second biggest turn off was how everyone looked like a goldfish, I wish I had finished the game because after playing skyrim i might never come back.

ironically, skyrim removed much of the min-maxing and as a result created a much more enjoyable leveling system.
User avatar
emma sweeney
 
Posts: 3396
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:02 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:39 am

If you don't powergame your stats you're going to really hate the level scaling

I say, give oblivion a miss, go even further back to Morrowind. Oblivion and Skyrim are rather similar. Morrowind's a bit different.

Cyrodiil is somewhat bland when it comes to cultural identity and just about every dungeon type looks the same as the last, so I tend to prefer Skyrim. It had some better faction questlines though. Still they don't even come close to the feeling of achievement you get from becoming a guild master in Morrowind.
User avatar
Nancy RIP
 
Posts: 3519
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:42 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:18 pm

Both are good games. I kind of prefer Skyrim, though Oblivion has some options not available in Skyrim (make your own spells!).
User avatar
Talitha Kukk
 
Posts: 3477
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2006 1:14 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:40 pm

i like skyrim better
User avatar
Joey Avelar
 
Posts: 3370
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:11 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:02 am

First off Op, Oblivion isn't far outdated on consoles and if you get it on pc you can mod for high res graphics. So you won't feel like you're playing something out dated, just something that put more value on gameplay then graphics.

I love Skyrim it's a great game but there is something equally awesome about oblivion. They both have their place on any rpg gamer's library and if you missed Oblivion it's worth going back to experience it.

One thing that was vastly superior in Oblivion was the guild quests. They were much longer and had more weight to them, not to mention actually having rewards for becoming thee leader of a faction. Anyone remember controlling the warrior guild and bring able to collect gold and items your guild earned for you? Completing these quest lines in Skyrim are incredibly under whelming since their is no real reward or notice given to the player's new leadership position.

Also note my most memorable gaming moment ever was of a particularly incredible Dark Brotherhood quest in Oblivion. Involving you trapped in a house with a bunch of other people, I won't spoil it because it was great.
User avatar
Nicole Mark
 
Posts: 3384
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:33 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:27 am

1. Morrowind
1a. Skyrim
By the time I finish Skyrim, this could be a tie.


Oblivion does not even belong in the discussion. It's like Godfather three, it doesn't even exist.
User avatar
Syaza Ramali
 
Posts: 3466
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:46 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:11 pm

Oblivion was good, but the bland dungeons and world and the probably 6 voice actors are major turnoffs. No to mention the leveling system.

Exploring Skyrim makes me feel like I'm exploring the world. Exploring Cyrodill makes e feel like I'm exploring the same field for the 500th time.
User avatar
LuCY sCoTT
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:29 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:37 pm

i'm currently playing morrowind and oblivion .. and skyrim :P
there are bad and good things in both games
but ...modded oblivion>skyrim
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2453/oblivion201112201956207.png
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/483/oblivion201112210138419.png
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1608/oblivion201112220349356.png
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3441/oblivion201112201939188.png
User avatar
Eduardo Rosas
 
Posts: 3381
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:15 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:30 pm

Oblivion and Skyrim are two of my favorite games, but I have to go with Oblivion. Seems like Oblivion had a better variation of quests along with better writing, plus I miss the gladiator style arena! The DLC for Oblivion was great. Knights of the Nine was fun and Shivering Isles was spectacular! Like a whole other game. The Dark Brotherhood was alot more fun for me in Oblivion too. I don't know, just seemed like there were alot more fun quests and not as much "go here and fetch this, then bring it back here and do this" type of quests like there are in Skyrim.

Skyrim is amazing and is right up there but if I'm picking favorites it has to be Oblivion.
User avatar
Austin England
 
Posts: 3528
Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:16 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:51 pm

Oblivion was my first TES game, and I was younger than I am now. Oblivion.
User avatar
Thema
 
Posts: 3461
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:36 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:09 pm

For me it's:
Morrowind > Skyrim > Oblivion
Morrowind is greater than Skyrim, which is much greater than Oblivion (Even modded Oblivion is not as good as Skyrim)

:tes:
User avatar
Penny Wills
 
Posts: 3474
Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:16 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:19 pm

I will have to say Skyrim is my favorite. I particularly love that you can have almost anybody you help become a follower. The marriage is kind of dumb tho. Your given a ring and she calls you her "love." Whats so special about that? The Thieves Guild annoyed me when I was becoming the guildmaster. I had to leave and return at least 100 times before it actually worked. Too many snatch-n-grab quests and not a lot of "fun" quests. Oblivion had a better thieves guild questline. The Dark Brotherhood is kind of dumb on skyrim. The armor is cool but the hood could use a mask for the male character, not just the female. Both games need a better ending to some quests. Take the War between the empire and stormcloaks for example, when one side defeats the other; then what? The Thalmor never step in and fight. They don't even show up and investigate. There is alot of talking rather than doing in Skyrim.
User avatar
Svenja Hedrich
 
Posts: 3496
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:18 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:01 pm

Oh and I forgot to comment about the fighting on skyrim. The takedowns need a little work. I will put my sword through someone's chest and there will be no blood on my sword and no hole in their chest. It's almost like I didnt touch them. No cuts or bruises or marks either. The Combat could be a little better too. When I sneak up and takedown someone my dagger will be above their head and yet im supposed to be cutting their throat?? Lets be realistic here.. Alot more blood should come out of someone when u chop off their head too.
User avatar
jennie xhx
 
Posts: 3429
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:28 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:33 pm

I like oblivion (and morrowind) better. Questing was dumbed down in Skyrim, no interesting cities like Vivec or the Imperial City, the magic system isn't as interesting, and Skyrim's environments don't interests me one bit.
User avatar
Angela
 
Posts: 3492
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:33 am

Post » Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:40 am

Skyrim beats Oblivion in a lot of aspects but Skyrim seems unfinished, like we're playing a beta. While oblivion was much more fleshed out.
User avatar
Crystal Clarke
 
Posts: 3410
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:55 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:41 pm

Don't get me wrong, i really like Skyrim... All 200 hours of it, for now...
Once i played a couple of hours Oblivion... But lost my saved data and didn't want to start over...
So how different is Oblivion? Bought it again but wasn't sure to start cause i kinda hate "outdated" games...
Spoilers are ok... And how does Thief/Rogue/Assassin do?
Thx for your answers and have a good one... :biggrin:

I...have confusion

You played both games...but you want me to tell you what is different between the two of them
User avatar
Fiori Pra
 
Posts: 3446
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:30 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:42 pm

I like oblivion (and morrowind) better. Questing was dumbed down in Skyrim, no interesting cities like Vivec or the Imperial City, the magic system isn't as interesting, and Skyrim's environments don't interests me one bit.

I've been posting this lately-

In Morrowind, questing was broken into little easily remembered bits. No complex goals. Go there, get that, bring it to me.

But oddly, nobody ever called it 'hand-holding'
User avatar
Ben sutton
 
Posts: 3427
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:01 am

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:50 pm

Mostly, I couldn't say until "real" mods land for Skyrim. I CAN say that I still love Daggerfall and Morrowind, outdated as they are.... and I'm still playing Oblivion too.
User avatar
Queen Bitch
 
Posts: 3312
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:43 pm

Post » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:40 pm

skyrim hands down is the most beautifaul game that i have ever played.

i loved oblivion but skyrim has spoiled me.

oblivion stole my heart but skyrim owns my soul.
User avatar
Chris Guerin
 
Posts: 3395
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 2:44 pm

Next

Return to V - Skyrim