Obsidian and Bethesda- thanks for status report!

Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:27 am

Hi all-



I just wanted to say I am glad to hear the official "update" report- patches are incoming that will fix the save game issues!!!

What alot of us here wanted was just a confirmation you are still working on making the fallout: new vegas experience as you all had intended it-

All of us posting here on the forum are fans of the game, and even though the beginning of this journey has been testing the loyalty of many, we can all agree we enjoy the fallout universe and only want what's best for the franchise- even though many argue this shouldn't have happened at all, i say better late than never!

I'll be happy when all the bugs and glitches are worked out, and we can all go back to doing what we love best...wandering the wastes!


so thanks again for confirmation the patch is coming, and even providing a loose ETA- it is appreciated by all of us!

now, let's all enjoy some of this tasty squirrel on a stick, i just fried it up, and i have enough for everyone!

(but the water is irradiated)

:)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:23 pm

I'll be jumping with glee when they fix the incredibly long loading times.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:42 am

I'll be jumping with glee when they fix the incredibly long loading times.

huh? what long load times? mine does it in 1-2 seconds in each area when I go into a building or fast travel.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:02 am

i think this next patch will do a lot of good and im hoping it will fix most of he little things.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:22 am

huh? what long load times? mine does it in 1-2 seconds in each area when I go into a building or fast travel.

Xbox 360, can take up to one and a half minutes to load an area. <_<
I don't have a lot of saves and I keep my saves to a certain minimum and delete the auto-save every other hour.
I'm out of ideas of what I can do to fix it.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:20 pm

Xbox 360, can take up to one and a half minutes to load an area. <_<
I don't have a lot of saves and I keep my saves to a certain minimum and delete the auto-save every other hour.
I'm out of ideas of what I can do to fix it.

its the xbox 360's hardware, you have a few options one I would just get a pc but thats just me.... game is well alot better on the pc anyways more you can do to the game. Or complain to microsoft that they need to upgrade their hardware but thats the thing with consoles..... they are lacking in hardware all of them... from the cpu, the gpu's are from tech based around 06-07 on nvidia/ati cards, they dont have much in terms of ram, and their hard drives are terribly slow.

Like a core i5 or a core i7, 6gigs of ddr3 tri-chn ram on the x58 board 12gigs if you can, or 8gigs on a p55 motherboard, a GTX 460 or two, a velociraptor hard drive 300-600gigs the 460 and the 600 are the fastest right now for mechanical WD hard drives. 19-23in screen, btw 3d vision is awesome=) a cheapie blu ray/dvd/cd drive, a decent airflow case, a 750-1000w quality power supply corsair, antec or silverstone or the XFX 750w psu or the 850w one. Your pretty much golden. I only own consoles for exclusives and after how slow halo reach ran yeah.... was like yup they need a hardware upgrade bad....
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:36 pm

Xbox 360, can take up to one and a half minutes to load an area. <_<
I don't have a lot of saves and I keep my saves to a certain minimum and delete the auto-save every other hour.
I'm out of ideas of what I can do to fix it.


They can be longer than that, I've seen several videos on youtube from the X360 where the player sits and waits over 3 minutes waiting for the loading screen rofl.

I feel bad for the console owners, I hope they patch it really really well.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:48 am

Hi all-



I just wanted to say I am glad to hear the official "update" report- patches are incoming that will fix the save game issues!!!

What alot of us here wanted was just a confirmation you are still working on making the fallout: new vegas experience as you all had intended it-

All of us posting here on the forum are fans of the game, and even though the beginning of this journey has been testing the loyalty of many, we can all agree we enjoy the fallout universe and only want what's best for the franchise- even though many argue this shouldn't have happened at all, i say better late than never!

I'll be happy when all the bugs and glitches are worked out, and we can all go back to doing what we love best...wandering the wastes!


so thanks again for confirmation the patch is coming, and even providing a loose ETA- it is appreciated by all of us!

now, let's all enjoy some of this tasty squirrel on a stick, i just fried it up, and i have enough for everyone!

(but the water is irradiated)

:)


People complain too much, IMO, go do something else until the patch arrives... people expect everything to be prepared for them immediately, it's shameful. Yeah, there are bugs/glitches/whatever and it svcks, get over it... yeah, some people can't even play the game and it svcks, get over it... OBVIOUSLY they're working on a patch, why would one of the most highly anticipated games of the year get released like this and then just be abandoned? C'mon, get real... people moan and groan about how bad the company is and everything because Obsidian/Bethesda couldn't snap their fingers and fix the game and solve world hunger simultaneously... blah blah blah, 90% of them are still playing the game though... hmm, lot of hot air around here if you ask me.

My game crashes every now and again, my game freezes a lot, I can't have autosave on otherwise my game freezes more which doesn't sound like an issue except when I don't save for an hour, I have to restart the game every now and again due to weird texture issues, my companions all have the same poor AI like yours and are morons too... still love the game, if it was so unbearable I would do something else until a patch came along... sheesh. /endcynicalrant

Anyway OP: Yes, let's all take a moment to appreciate someone popping in to tell us the obvious and hopefully quell this flood of impatience and whining. Of course, it'll resume by next week I'm sure... :facepalm:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:35 pm

its the xbox 360's hardware, you have a few options one I would just get a pc but thats just me.... game is well alot better on the pc anyways more you can do to the game. Or complain to microsoft that they need to upgrade their hardware but thats the thing with consoles..... they are lacking in hardware all of them... from the cpu, the gpu's are from tech based around 06-07 on nvidia/ati cards, they dont have much in terms of ram, and their hard drives are terribly slow.

Like a core i5 or a core i7, 6gigs of ddr3 tri-chn ram on the x58 board 12gigs if you can, or 8gigs on a p55 motherboard, a GTX 460 or two, a velociraptor hard drive 300-600gigs the 460 and the 600 are the fastest right now for mechanical WD hard drives. 19-23in screen, btw 3d vision is awesome=) a cheapie blu ray/dvd/cd drive, a decent airflow case, a 750-1000w quality power supply corsair, antec or silverstone or the XFX 750w psu or the 850w one. Your pretty much golden. I only own consoles for exclusives and after how slow halo reach ran yeah.... was like yup they need a hardware upgrade bad....


Agreed. Don't say that to an xbox 360 fan though or you'll get called a graphics snob or they'll say the hardware is good enough. It's five years old now, same amount of time that passed between gamecube to wii and one year longer than xbox1 to 360. Xbox users were quick to point out the graphical shortcomings of the wii (which is now more or less 9 year old hardware!) but somehow fail to admit the same is true now for the 360. Crysis is over three years old now and an example of a game that the current console generation just can't run without dumbing it down a lot (which is exactly what Crysis 2 is doing to run on the consoles). Sadly MS has not intention of releasing a new console at this point and opting to instead overhype to death a friggin peripheral. Sony lost too much money on the PS3 to afford a new hardware launch, and anything new from Nintendo will likely be similar in graphical quality to PS3/360 since that is how they roll. Maybe I'm wrong, obviously all opinions..
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:36 am

Agreed. Don't say that to an xbox 360 fan though or you'll get called a graphics snob or they'll say the hardware is good enough. It's five years old now, same amount of time that passed between gamecube to wii and one year longer than xbox1 to 360. Xbox users were quick to point out the graphical shortcomings of the wii (which is now more or less 9 year old hardware!) but somehow fail to admit the same is true now for the 360. Crysis is over three years old now and an example of a game that the current console generation just can't run without dumbing it down a lot (which is exactly what Crysis 2 is doing to run on the consoles). Sadly MS has not intention of releasing a new console at this point and opting to instead overhype to death a friggin peripheral. Sony lost too much money on the PS3 to afford a new hardware launch, and anything new from Nintendo will likely be similar in graphical quality to PS3/360 since that is how they roll. Maybe I'm wrong, obviously all opinions..


Like my machine finally finished not too long ago, had a motherboard burn up due to the power consumption of my video cards and setup on the psu's 24pin 12v's but since almost all of my parts have a lifetime warranty well I was taken care of when it happened. But gaming on the pc esp for rpgs, and the more demanding games not dumbed down where I can crank it all up its very enjoyable. But I hate how devs pretty much make a game around a console and make sure the game keeps a 30 fps plus thats why in fo nv the strip is broken up into parts, the consoles will buckle. I work in the gaming industry at so i get to see this first hand as an environment artist and since I have been gaming for a long long time it frustrated me to no end, but its about the $$$ thats why its done....
Just hope the guy on nexus who is doing one big open strip gets help with the scripting transfering of npcs/quest available on it and npc dialog/events/triggers he needs to make it happen.
This is what I game on my custom built machine
http://www.evga.com/modsrigs/detail.aspx?buildid=23371

not really a graphics snob, but i do expect my games to load fast and not have to twittle my thumbs for more than 1-5 seconds while on a loading screen while gaming think about it how much time is burned for those guys waiting over a minute on loading screens if they played their game for six hours or more.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:09 pm

I did not understand a word you just said.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:33 pm

The long load times are accumulative the longer you play the worse it gets, until it causes your system to crash.

When I started playing I had about 20 to 30 second load times after about an hour the load times started increasing to close to a minute. the longer I played the worse it got. thing it would freeze.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:08 am

Lol, I can see it now. A thanks to Obsidian/Bethesda thread is going to morph into another console war.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:51 pm

Xbox 360, can take up to one and a half minutes to load an area. <_<
I don't have a lot of saves and I keep my saves to a certain minimum and delete the auto-save every other hour.
I'm out of ideas of what I can do to fix it.


Run a disc cleaner through every 10 hours. Mine NEVER takes more than 10 seconds. Hope this helps.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:41 am

People complain too much, IMO, go do something else until the patch arrives... people expect everything to be prepared for them immediately, it's shameful. Yeah, there are bugs/glitches/whatever and it svcks, get over it... yeah, some people can't even play the game and it svcks, get over it... OBVIOUSLY they're working on a patch, why would one of the most highly anticipated games of the year get released like this and then just be abandoned? C'mon, get real... people moan and groan about how bad the company is and everything because Obsidian/Bethesda couldn't snap their fingers and fix the game and solve world hunger simultaneously... blah blah blah, 90% of them are still playing the game though... hmm, lot of hot air around here if you ask me.

My game crashes every now and again, my game freezes a lot, I can't have autosave on otherwise my game freezes more which doesn't sound like an issue except when I don't save for an hour, I have to restart the game every now and again due to weird texture issues, my companions all have the same poor AI like yours and are morons too... still love the game, if it was so unbearable I would do something else until a patch came along... sheesh. /endcynicalrant

Anyway OP: Yes, let's all take a moment to appreciate someone popping in to tell us the obvious and hopefully quell this flood of impatience and whining. Of course, it'll resume by next week I'm sure... :facepalm:


And you aren't whining and complaining?

You're a hypocrite....
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:57 am

Easy on the consoles boys. My load times are around 10 seconds at the most and when I go through the strip it's instant. I haven't had a frame rate drop and it freezes once a week. Infact from what I read on these forums my release date PS3 is running the game better than these kick ass PCs. I'm confused lol
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:59 am

And you aren't whining and complaining?

You're a hypocrite....


I don't recall saying I've never complained/whined in my entire life or that I've also started a thread on the forums throwing a tantrum about FO:NV and it's many downfalls. I fail to understand how stating my opinion specifically about people's lack of patience and inability to find something else to do if the game is so unbearable makes me a hypocrite, so right now your response seems rather short sighted.

Feel free to enlighten me to the error of my hypocritical ways though. :huh:
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:24 pm

As a constructive point, a lot of the pc problems can be corrected by experimenting with the settings on the graphic cards. I've reset a couple specifically for the game, and it's made a massive difference to the glitches.

That suggestion won't help the console users I'm afraid though.

The fact that a lot of the problems are across all platforms indicates that the issues lie with the game program itself - which, and I will prepare to suffer the incessant whining of the apparently unsuffering, is a problem of the various companies involved and is something they would have known about (using the 'lots of different pc configurations out there' argument is one thing, but try applying that against ps3 and xbox where every machine is a clone simply doesn't rate - they must have tested on all platforms).

Good to see that something is happening, better late than never....now, when will Oblivion, Shivering Isles, and Fallout3 be fixed?

@ Cyric:

Your first paragraph. You complain about the people who have been venting here, that's what makes your post hypocritical. They are venting about issues that directly impact on their gameplay. You are venting because you don't like their venting, and you state that they are overrating their issues. At least their venting has a point, your's is simply complaining for the sake of disagreement.

Edit: Please don't think I'm entering into a flame war here, but you did request clarification on my statement.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:51 am

its the xbox 360's hardware, you have a few options one I would just get a pc but thats just me.... game is well alot better on the pc anyways more you can do to the game. Or complain to microsoft that they need to upgrade their hardware but thats the thing with consoles..... they are lacking in hardware all of them... from the cpu, the gpu's are from tech based around 06-07 on nvidia/ati cards, they dont have much in terms of ram, and their hard drives are terribly slow.

Like a core i5 or a core i7, 6gigs of ddr3 tri-chn ram on the x58 board 12gigs if you can, or 8gigs on a p55 motherboard, a GTX 460 or two, a velociraptor hard drive 300-600gigs the 460 and the 600 are the fastest right now for mechanical WD hard drives. 19-23in screen, btw 3d vision is awesome=) a cheapie blu ray/dvd/cd drive, a decent airflow case, a 750-1000w quality power supply corsair, antec or silverstone or the XFX 750w psu or the 850w one. Your pretty much golden. I only own consoles for exclusives and after how slow halo reach ran yeah.... was like yup they need a hardware upgrade bad....


So judging by this I would have to become a computer nerd and drop at least 3k... or i can get an xbox and wait 5 to 10 more seconds for a load screen and have a slightly less clear picture? But on my 65 inch hdtv, the pictures is pretty damn smooth and with my surround sound, it's very immersive.

I'm gonna go with the one where i only spend like 300 bucks.

Enjoy your 3dtv.
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@ Cyric:

Your first paragraph. You complain about the people who have been venting here, that's what makes your post hypocritical. They are venting about issues that directly impact on their gameplay. You are venting because you don't like their venting, and you state that they are overrating their issues. At least their venting has a point, your's is simply complaining for the sake of disagreement.

Edit: Please don't think I'm entering into a flame war here, but you did request clarification on my statement.


Fair enough, I suppose I can see how it may have come off in that manner. My little rant was more directed at people who are throwing these massive tantrums over a videogame, bashing Obsidian/Bethesda, and acting like it's the end of the world because there was no patch to fix the whole game in a week. As for people who are just complaining about issues, I don't honestly mind it that much and most of it is legit, it's mostly just people who are blowing it out of proportion like crazy. I don't think it's too far-fetched to think that the majority of gamers have more games than just FO:NV, especially with all the highly anticipated games coming out recently (Call of Duty:Black Ops is coming out on the 9th or Fable III which is already out to name a couple). I also don't think it's too far-fetched to think that the majority of people can't find something else to occupy their time while FO:NV is undergoing "repairs" and whatnot.

The other part of my rant was about people freaking the hell out because they weren't receiving an update every 20 minutes about a patch being worked on. Obsidian/Bethesda initially stated they were reading the forums and working on a patch, that's all we need to know... it's been roughly 2-3 weeks and the forums are aflame with people losing their minds over the lack of updates, gimme a break. As I stated previously, what makes anyone think that one of the most highly anticipated games of the year (if not the most highly anticipated game of the year) would be released with little to no follow-up support? It's preposterous IMO, this isn't Aion for crying out loud... I dare say Obsidian/Bethesda have much better reputations than NCsoft, lol. :lmao:

Anyway, I suppose it may be a bit on the hypocritical side but so be it, it is what it is.

(Not trying to start a flame war either, I'm rather impressed and appreciative with your ability to hold a discussion civilly.)
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:49 am

, your's is simply complaining for the sake of disagreement.



Well this isn't an argument

Yes it is

Not it isn't, it's contradiction

No it isn't

See there you just contradicted me

No I didn't.

Argument is an intellectual process, contradiction is just the automatic gamesaying of any statement the other person makes.

No it isn't.
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It's easy to please fans. Lets see if they can please customers as well :brokencomputer:
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So judging by this I would have to become a computer nerd and drop at least 3k... or i can get an xbox and wait 5 to 10 more seconds for a load screen and have a slightly less clear picture? But on my 65 inch hdtv, the pictures is pretty damn smooth and with my surround sound, it's very immersive.

I'm gonna go with the one where i only spend like 300 bucks.

Enjoy your 3dtv.

I dont have a 3d tv just 3x 23" 3D Displays in 3d Surround.

Actually about 800-1200 building it yourself you can have a really good gaming rig 1500 you can build a really really nice gaming rig. Actually a pc you will have a higher quality image, the xbox 360 is defaulted to what 480p for its resolution. Its been awhile since I have had to work in a game on one. A 360's native/default res games are made to at least keep a min of 30 fps the entire time. Test are not done on the higher resolutions because most console gamers dont play at those resolutions. Plus what gets over 30 fps or more at its default resolution will slow down to a crawl alot of times setting the 360's resolution up. As for building a computer its no different than putting a desk/table/model or legos together only thing is its a bit more expensive in some cases and a little more fragile. Your only enemy being static electricity and not reading instructions. If you run the game on your 65" HD tv with the 360 at its native resolution yeah it will play fine if its a true HDTV that meaning 1080p or 1920x1200 and you set your 360 to that resolution for what your tv is supported to support you would be in awe at the higher quaility of the image being rendered but what you will not be happy with your fps or load times and game play as you will get the lag.=) So you got a 1080p tv that your more or less playing at 480p when setting to 720p or 1080i your console starts to lag because it cannot keep up=/ do not understand the logic in that unless you have a blu ray player for watching movies in 1080p because after developing games on the console and knowing how that pipeline works anything over 480p starts lugging the 360 big time. You also dont need 3k to have a good gaming pc 800-1200 is more than enough to have something really really decent that runs all of todays games at 30-100fps for a smooth gaming even at 1080p.

Dont get me wrong I own a 360, a Wii as well that i only play exclusive titles on that will never be on the pc. They are fun but when you crank up the resolution via the console they are very lacking the image quality looks way better when you crank up the system to 1080p but the lag is in my opinion almost unbearable on Gen 3 games, because its outdated hardware. You dont need a 3k pc for good gaming as I already said 800-1200 dollars of doing it yourself, take a little time and its all down hill from there=) But FO NV to get the low load times, console commands to fix things yourself if you run into an issue, more control over the image quality you are getting by tweaking the graphics config options and the game settings ini file yourself, not to mention a ton of cool mods from the nexus site. PC is the way to go for games like FO3/FO NV.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:01 am

The long load times are accumulative the longer you play the worse it gets, until it causes your system to crash.

When I started playing I had about 20 to 30 second load times after about an hour the load times started increasing to close to a minute. the longer I played the worse it got. thing it would freeze.


That's because of how the game works, I'm afraid. Particularly if you don't have a lot of memory. As you progress through the game, the save file picks up variables that need to be recorded. Did you complete this quest, if so in what way, did you pick up that weapon from cache X, etc etc.

Unfortunately, the Xbox 360 has an extremely small amount of memory. To the tune of 512 megs, shared between the graphics and the system. Hence, long loading times, because it can't store as much in its memory.
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Post » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:57 pm

i play on 360 luckily i have no extreme load times, in fact most of the time i am surprised how fast it loads
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