Basiaclly as the title says. I am level 43 atm and my smithing is 80, I was playing use the glitch to get smithing to 100, but also I could just pay the money for traing to 100 probably coast me all my money, atm i have 80k, I was aslo planing getting coj up few levels, but i think it probably is cheating so i probably won't do it but i do have a sperated save b4 i used it once.

Are you talking about using the book and bookcase trick to get all of your skills to 100 or are you just going to use the book as it was meant to be used in the game to raise skills in one area five levels?

Doesn't really matter, it's a single player game.
Do what you want.
Though IMO it's just a glitch.

It's an exploit.

I was planing using it to get smithing to 100, so i can make my dragon-scale armor and maybe get enchanting to 100 and just beat the game alrady, still far from it just got elder scroll, but my next playthough i plan on ether legit leveling up skills no exlporting etc and maybe being a true wichhunter no bound bow, does good deads no dedtric questing, or be a bad ass assassin primaary skills steath,archrey,one-hand,maybe bound bow if i do this way i won't have to levle enchanting/smithing. However atm I am kinda a witchhunter my main weapon is ofc the bow atm bound bow, i usually sneak kill most of the tiems i barly summon etc.


Which sounds more fun.

New Play Though Bad-Ass-Assasin
Current Playthugh - Kinda a wichhunter
New Play thought - True Wichunter, like heavy armor, mage hood, destraction, normal bow.

If i stick to my playthough atm I may just play legit and next one exlort my way back up.


Sorry for off-topick long wall of text.


P'S ~ I was also thinking just playing this playthough I have atm as a fun char, by exlroting etc and when dawnguard comes out for pc, sart a new playthough and beat the game then not sure what to do might make another poll/topic.

Need more peopels opinons besides just the votes

Usually half way through my game play I use it just to level up faster, because once you reach 50 lvling is very slow.

I can tell I'm level 43 and finding lvling slow, i mean i could just the hell wiht it and use it then my next playthough when dg comes out for pc play the game legit. I level up my skills legity so far have around 80k gold but getting kinda bored and not sure what my class is anymore. Made another post would appreachrated if u guys and girls could stop by and reply and help me with opinions. http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1396332-what-to-do/

Usually they are the same thing.

For roleplaying purposes levelling after 50 is very difficult. A warrior is going to have to start casting spells or a mage is going to have to start swinging two handed weapons to increase the skills that never get used by the character. This will be difficult because you will be at level 50 trying to use skills that you svck at against high level enemies. I think this is why they say the game has a soft cap of like 50.

It's obviously cheating. What does it matter what individual people class it as though ?

Well there's trainers u can get to follow and train those skilsl by 5 levels pre level and u can tkae u money back, all tho at 50 i would say its still hard to do that.

They say it has a soft cap because around there you don't encounter anything new, Daedric and Dragonbone/scale start dropping in random loot, you see the highest tier of enemies, etc. The only thing they do after that to increase difficulty is increase the health of the enemies according to some mathematical formula (and they say algebra has no real life application, tsk tsk)

But yeah, after I got my warriors 2 handed up to 100, I leveled very slowly, and once I got block and heavy armour to 100, I didn't level up at all. I had to grind 1 handed, archery, smithing and light armour, 4 skills I almost never use in order to get the achievement.

Well thats why i was thiking doing the glitch with the book, but on my next playthough play legitly and whne the tiem comes i have to level other classes so be it.

This is not about leveling to extreme levels. The OP is talking about leveling skills. All of my characters are specialized. The overall level is completely irrelevant to my gameplay. Someone that is actually RPing will not level past 55 or 60 anyway. I usually cap at around 48 or so.

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Single player or not, you can cheat at Solitaire. It is exploiting the games mechanics to better the player in ways that was not intended to be used. The book was obviously not meant to be used over and over.

However, it doesn't affect anyone but you. So ask yourself..."Do I feel dirty?" (que Clint Eastwood)

Well as I said in my recent reply, I was thining the hell with it and do it never really got enchanting or to 100 or other skills, I have got smithing to 100 b4 on old char back then b4 they patch the dagger exploirt, but my new playthough when dg comes out for pc i play legit mihgt start it early b4 dg comes out get to 20 levels so i be ready for it

The game is not fun when you do that, just play and you will level up.

It's a quick way to level skills up which I have found useful for some characters. I don't consider it anything more or less than that.

For me, cheating and exploiting are two totally different things.

Exploiting is taking something that is present in the game and using it, whether the devs wanted it or not. There is nothing wrong with this. If it was truly terrible thing, then the devs would have taken it out.

Cheating is using something external to gain something that is not available in game. Something that comes to mind is using an Action Replay for Pokemon to get infinite master balls. There is only one per game and, at least to my experience, no way to get more without cheating.

So exploiting a glitch isn't too bad. And in response to Indian Hero, grinding skills that you never use for perks in things that you do use is no fun either. Why should I level my one handed on my mage for that point in Master Destruction? I usually play until my skills that I use are 100 and then I use the Oghma. This way, I experience everything I planned my build for, but not lose anything in the process.

Well that what I was thinking my archery is already 100, conjuration is almost 60, smiting is 80 atm and it's getting hard to level to 100 w/o spending money, enchanting I find not to bad, alchemy is only 20-30 not 100% sure and other skills I barely use. I do play to do more playthoughs and do different things etc.

I leveled up my character to 81 grinding each skill up.
Do I claim everyone should do it? No. I like changing my character to accommodate for leveling a new skill.

I still think the Ogma book glitch is an exploit but I don't really care if other people choose to use it.

I think they patch it, because i used it then stored in bookshelf, then took it out and tried to re-do it nothing and when i try to red it from bookshelf it just disappears.

nm i was doing it wrong, quick question i've been meaning to make a post and ask this but to lazy so i ask it here, what does it mean by skill enchamtents on armor are 25% stronger?

nm i was doing it wrong, quick question i've been meaning to make a post and ask this but to lazy so i ask it here, what does it mean by skill enchamtents on armor are 25% stronger?

Say you can enchant a piece of armor with fortify heavy armor by 4 it now increases that bonus to 5.