Overpowered,,,, overschmoward : V

» Mon May 28, 2012 11:02 pm

Sorry but I have to vent....

I have read too many posts about this is over powered,,, that is over powered....

over powered = over schmoward

this is a SINGLE player game...... only you are playing this game with a bunch of NPC's....

If you feel something is over powered for your play tastes,,,, then don't use it.

People play a single player rpg with the mindset of a mmorpg player....

Your not competing against anybody but yourself.... therefore.... challenge yourself

Ok I am done venting now... thank you drive through

» Mon May 28, 2012 11:37 pm

Bye

» Tue May 29, 2012 12:30 pm

Sorry but I have to vent....

I have read too many posts about this is over powered,,, that is over powered....

over powered = over schmoward

this is a SINGLE player game...... only you are playing this game with a bunch of NPC's....

If you feel something is over powered for your play tastes,,,, then don't use it.

People play a single player rpg with the mindset of a mmorpg player....

Your not competing against anybody but yourself.... therefore.... challenge yourself

Ok I am done venting now... thank you drive through

+1 dude !

Here's a sweetroll for you !l

» Tue May 29, 2012 3:34 am

Have to agree really, granted it shouldn't be taken to ridiculous levels where you can take down a dragon by blowing on it making you need to fight it with your eyelashes to get any sort of a challenge, but as it is right now if you're killing dragons in one shot then it's your problem, not the games problem.

» Tue May 29, 2012 10:58 am

The point people are trying to make is that they have to force themselves to play a certain way so not to make the game too easy and ruin the challenge, thus cheapening their experience.

» Tue May 29, 2012 11:38 am

Yeah, I hate getting the best gear and all the right perks just to find out I can slice my way through hoards or enemies.

» Tue May 29, 2012 1:38 am

In single-player games 'balance' is known as 'challenge'. Designers want difficulty in their scenarios to challenge the player, but difficulty largely depends on the tools said player can bring to bear. If those tools are easily accessible to the point players have to go out of their way not to use them, the game suffers from artificial difficulty on their part and winning becomes less satisfactory than if these abilities weren't handed to them so readily.

Becoming unstoppable is a game in of itself and making that route too easy takes a lot of the fun out of character-build exploration.

» Tue May 29, 2012 8:26 am

Yeah, I play RPGs in part because they can challenge you on more levels than a first person shooter. Perks and equipment that trivialize combat without much effort gets rid of that extra amount of challenge. If I just want to breeze through the story without having to strategize, I'll read a book, the writing's usually better.

» Tue May 29, 2012 2:55 am

Agreed dude.

+1

You deserve a Nord Mead.

» Tue May 29, 2012 2:12 am

People want to be able to progress through the game with the goal of getting better gear and growing more powerful. If doing so breaks the game and makes it too easy, then that ruins the experience. If you artificially try to use inferior items even though you can get better ones to make the game hard, that takes the progression aspect out of the game and ruins the experience. Either way, something is ruining the experience.

» Tue May 29, 2012 11:26 am

my char used to be overpowered, until he took an arrow in the knee

» Tue May 29, 2012 3:42 am

In single-player games 'balance' is known as 'challenge'. Designers want difficulty in their scenarios to challenge the player, but difficulty largely depends on the tools said player can bring to bear. If those tools are easily accessible to the point players have to go out of their way not to use them, the game suffers from artificial difficulty on their part and winning becomes less satisfactory than if these abilities weren't handed to them so readily.

Becoming unstoppable is a game in of itself and making that route too easy takes a lot of the fun out of character-build exploration.

Pretty much.

» Mon May 28, 2012 11:32 pm

The only thing that will be 'fixed' is the crafting system, most of the mechanics are fine magic aside. I'd really like to see a magic overhaul in a large way.

» Tue May 29, 2012 12:08 pm

A properly balances game is better regardless if it is single player or multiplayer.

» Tue May 29, 2012 1:10 am

Use self control, problem solved. Anyone who has 200+ dam weps is deliberately making them that way, by using numerous armour enchants and alchemy/enchanting loops. Be advlts and recognise your choices have consequences and these "problems" disappear.

Won't happen, will get the usual risible claims from the crowd who demand BGS wet nurse them.

» Tue May 29, 2012 9:15 am

Use self control, problem solved. Anyone who has 200+ dam weps is deliberately making them that way, by using numerous armour enchants and alchemy/enchanting loops. Be advlts and recognise your choices have consequences and these "problems" disappear.

Won't happen, will get the usual risible claims from the crowd who demand BGS wet nurse them.

I don't have enchanting or smithing on my one handed or archer build, and I'm still a one hit machine. Its just like Morrowind in that regards. You become a Demi God sooner rather than later, unless your primary focus is on Destruction.

» Tue May 29, 2012 6:17 am

Sorry but I have to vent....

I have read too many posts about this is over powered,,, that is over powered....

over powered = over schmoward

this is a SINGLE player game...... only you are playing this game with a bunch of NPC's....

If you feel something is over powered for your play tastes,,,, then don't use it.

People play a single player rpg with the mindset of a mmorpg player....

Your not competing against anybody but yourself.... therefore.... challenge yourself

Ok I am done venting now... thank you drive through

Why is it so difficult to understand that when it comes to choice, theres needs to be a reasonable balance and evaluation of skills and strategies. However, what your trying to tell us is "don't use what the game offers" and "play how you want to play". Well those two lines dont even make sense together. Its easy to just say "it single player, doesnt matter" with a narrow mind set as you have demonstrated <_<

, many people actually care.

» Tue May 29, 2012 10:46 am

I don't have enchanting or smithing on my one handed or archer build, and I'm still a one hit machine.

Not on Expert or Master you're not, unless you're talking about low level bandits, which is how it should be, maybe we should demand more bandits in full Daedric plate, more like Oblivion, challenge was awesome. :rolleyes:

» Tue May 29, 2012 11:24 am

Use self control, problem solved. Anyone who has 200+ dam weps is deliberately making them that way, by using numerous armour enchants and alchemy/enchanting loops. Be advlts and recognise your choices have consequences and these "problems" disappear.

Won't happen, will get the usual risible claims from the crowd who demand BGS wet nurse them.

Wow.

So we have to be "advlts" and ensure that we don't try to constantly improve ourselves and settle with mediocrity? Seems like a great idea.

» Tue May 29, 2012 6:56 am

Its impossible to really balance this game but my hope is they make it so that you try to play it without deliberately trying to exploit the game you wont be able to easily break the game and make yourself too powerful too soon. Right now I think its too easy to break the game and I hope they tweak it just a bit

» Mon May 28, 2012 10:29 pm

I don't have enchanting or smithing on my one handed or archer build, and I'm still a one hit machine. Its just like Morrowind in that regards. You become a Demi God sooner rather than later, unless your primary focus is on Destruction.

Are we playing the same morrowind? within 20 minutes of gameplay you had +200pts of runspeed and 60% magic resist. Once you geared up and reached 100% MR it was easy mode. You proceeded to kill helseth get his ring, get 100% Magic resist + 100pts Sanctuary to become LITERALLY unkillable.

» Mon May 28, 2012 10:01 pm

Not on Expert or Master you're not, unless you're talking about low level bandits, which is how it should be, maybe we should demand more bandits in full Daedric plate, more like Oblivion, challenge was awesome. :rolleyes:

On Expert with my archer. Master on my one handed.

Are we playing the same morrowind? within 20 minutes of gameplay you had +200pts of runspeed and 60% magic resist. Once you geared up and reached 100% MR it was easy mode. You proceeded to kill helseth get his ring, get 100% Magic resist + 100pts Sanctuary to become LITERALLY unkillable.

Only if you went out of your way to look for that stuff. Playing regularly you become a demi god no matter the build, sooner rather than later. Which is what I said.

» Tue May 29, 2012 5:32 am

So the argument against the OP is essentially,

"Even though I can have the best gear I still want to be challenged."

If that were truly the case then why are people complaining about level scaling? It provides the challenge, but the argument against level scaling is generally,

" I have all the best gear and yet the enemy is still on level with me"

I see a bit o' schizophrenia on these boards.

» Tue May 29, 2012 9:52 am

I agree with you OP.

» Tue May 29, 2012 9:26 am

On Expert with my archer. Master on my one handed.

Not one shotting anything but lowest level enemies without looped gear.

You're ignored in future. I don't like liars.