And justice is a third. Justice does not serve those who commit the crimes or just the victims themselves. If it were so then any criminal, who feels treated unjust had a point, and dead victims, well, had no point at all since they are dead. Justice serves us all.

Charm is also a word. How do you think the people of Skyrim feel when they find out that those noisy monks up on the mountain kept one of the dragons hidden and made it a secret? A dragon who could be just as dangerous as Alduin. Just because it talks and you fall for its charm, does not mean it deserves mercy. It means at best that you fell for its charm. The people of Skyrim will not be charmed about your decision when they find out.

We're talking about a race that's as sentient as any of the humanoid races. Dragons aren't prairie dogs or something.

You argued that since it was in his nature to kill we shouldn't hold it against him. A pretty absurd argument really. If its that ingrained a part of his nature the argument for killing him is strengthened.

Paarthurnax was hoping that when you die (you are mortal, he is immortal) he will be able to take over the world. He did not want to do this earlier because you and Alduin are both able to kill him. Alduin is immortal, so he helped you kill him as Paarthurnax could not, and now he is just chilling until you die...

The two blades left won't be able to do a thing! And the Greybeards will be easily persuaded to do his bidding, Paarth will probably lie about how it is the "way of the voice" and "Kyne commands it" or some trash like that.



So I killed him. He doesn't fool me!

If there was a river you had to cross and it was full of crocodiles, would you swim through it? Probably not. You know they will snap you, pull you under water and drown you, if you did not already die from the attack.

If there was a river you had to cross and it had only one crocodile in it, who talked and made all sense, would you swim through it? Yes, you would! You would not ask yourself what the f' happened to all those other crocodiles who were there just last week and you would not be scared by that fact that this one mofu can actually talk!

And why? Because your grandma did not read little red riding hood to you.

Everyone posts about "Paarthurnax's crimes" as if he had a choice in what he was doing. Alduin was so powerful that could make all of the dragons do whatever he wanted them to do. Alduin forced them to enslave humanoids and do the things they did. Paarthurnax didn't agree with this, which was why he went to Akatosh who gave men the power of the Thu'um and eventually the power to defeat Alduin and end his reign of terror. Paarthurnax did a huge part in saving the human race from Alduin (twice); he definitely does not deserve to be killed.

The Blades are apparently very shallow minded and can't see past the fact that Paarthurnax (and all other dragons) once did terrible things to a bunch of people (even though the dragons were forced to do so by Alduin) and want to kill them all, no matter what they did to help anyone.

I have The Paarhurnax Fix mod installed.

No, I said you can't say he committed any crimes because he's not human. We shouldn't hold his nature against him at this point because he's seen the error of his ways (I've killed plenty of dragons who are succumbing to their nature) and has helped us rid the world of an evil. He's not getting a pass on future actions - if he were to act up in the future he'll be dealt with...if the devs allow us.

Is this talking crocodile in RL or in Skyrim? I wouldn't assume it was a nice crocodile just because it spoke to me - I would weigh other evidence or move along if no other evidence were available. We're talking about Paarthurnax who has a history and is helping us defeat an evil (or greater evil) and is a life form much higher than merely being a speaking reptile.

If you must know Meine Grossmutter told us Kinder the Little Red Riding Hood with the real ending.
Since you're pulling anologies from everywhere: do you go into the "Vampires are teh C00lne$$" threads and accuse them of their grandmas not reading Bram Stoker's Dracula to them?

If they spelled it like you did would I recommend them to read a book.

Hes sentient. He has the same capacity as a human to make moral choices, therefore I'll hold him to the same standards.

That's fine, I'm not bashing people who decide to kill him - I'm keeping an eye on him. Morality is separate from law (often intertwined, but basically separate) I was just addressing the "crime" thing.

I wonder, is he really sentient?

If Paarthurnax had not killed anyone would I give him a pass, surely, regardless of being a dragon, sentient or not. Even if he had killed humans and there was enough evidence to suggest that it was in self-defence would I let him live. He did however kill many humans according to history for no good reason.

It is only good he is at peace with himself. He will then not come back and haunt humans as a ghost.

I can think of many valid arguments on both sides, but strictly gaming speaking... I have to have at least one playthrough where I diminish everything important to Nords. Stormcloaks, Paarthurnax, whatever. It's tiring to have it all shoved down my throat.

besides the greybeards are really double agents really they are dragon priests hoping your the last dragonborn..... think about it.. wait till you die.... boom history repeats itself... thats how i justify it

It is kind of a strange coinicidence that they have kind of mage qualities about them, want kinship with dragons, and seem to know all about these dragon walls where dragon priests pontificated from.