Paarthurnax (Spoilers) : V

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:56 am

I was so depressed about having to kill him without having the option to persuade the Blades that he's one of the good guys. I literally almost cried, but due to my wish of trying to explore as much as I can within the first play through, I had to kill him. Couldn't the developers include another option?! That's just sad, that's all.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:08 am

Meh, just ignore the Blades. They're not worth it. Alternately, if you're on the PC, there's a mod that allows you to basically tell them No and still be able to interact with them. Paarthunax Fix or something like that, I think.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:52 pm

Yeah, there are somethings you have to do to see other things, but that one wasn't worth it for me on either of my playthroughs. I can always read walkthroughs/spoilers if I want to know what happens.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:32 am

You can talk to the greybeards and tell them that you are not going to kill parthurnax and the quest will be removed from your log.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:38 am

[img]http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9833/deathofpaarthurnax.jpg[/img]

Killing a dragon never felt better.

I had forged an axe, named it Glorious Justice and used it only on Paathurnax. It is now hanging on a wall in Breezehome.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:26 am

You can talk to the greybeards and tell them that you are not going to kill parthurnax and the quest will be removed from your log.

Thats what I did and since then I rubbed my nose against the blades.

DarkenedSpear Do a reload and do exactly what awesomeray said and the quest will be removed from your journal.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:36 am

I also read about every quest, NPC and place beforehand in order to know what to expect. But still I never knew that I can turn to the Greybeards, that's a great alternative! I'll do that on my next playthrough. In the meanwhile I'll have to live with these feelings of regret I have for killing Paarthurnax. Such a shame, really.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:53 am

I also read about every quest, NPC and place beforehand in order to know what to expect. But still I never knew that I can turn to the Greybeards, that's a great alternative! I'll do that on my next playthrough. In the meanwhile I'll have to live with these feelings of regret I have for killing Paarthurnax. Such a shame, really.

Paarthurnax did a much greater crime, yet he felt no regret. This is one of the reasons why I killed him. There are more reasons, but since you mentioned regret...

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:58 pm

Fu*# the Blades, Paarth's me bud.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:45 pm

Paarthurnax did a much greater crime...

He's not a human - he can't be guilty of a "crime". It's in his nature (which he's successfully fighting) - is a bear a criminal for killing a rabbit?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:20 pm

He's not a human - he can't be guilty of a "crime". It's in his nature (which he's successfully fighting) - is a bear a criminal for killing a rabbit?

We are no rabbits, and you do put down a bear if it has attacked humans...

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:46 am

We are no rabbits, and you do put down a bear if it has attacked humans...

Not really. If a bear is minding his own business and a human hikes into his territory only a ignorant fool would go kill a bear for being a bear. In the unfortunate incidences where bears stray into towns then it may, unfortunately, come to that.

And dragons are no mere bears - it was an anology.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:18 pm

He's not a human - he can't be guilty of a "crime". It's in his nature (which he's successfully fighting) - is a bear a criminal for killing a rabbit?

Yeah, he's not human. Dragons are an even more evolved species than anything else on the planet. They didn't just kill humans either. They created a slave system, basically. They even recruited other humans to help keep things in line. If all they was did was mindless killing, it wouldn't have been so sophisicated.

Besides, he's knows he's guilty of crimes himself. That's.... pretty much why he's reformed and trying something else now.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:17 am

yeah it would be nice to have another option but i do like the sound a dragon makes when a hammer hits his head

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:56 am

You can talk to the greybeards and tell them that you are not going to kill parthurnax and the quest will be removed from your log.

really?... im sure thats not true.. when i tryed it , it stayed there...

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:55 am

I understand people wanting more options in the writing though.

One thing I don't like is his "argument of nature". That he was compelled to do it. I don't buy it. Mind you, I don't think he's all that bad now, but that's just lame writing. There are married people, who shag their neighbors in their beds while their kids are in the other room. And if they get caught, some might call themselves six addicts. "I can't help it. It's my nature."

Many pedophiles make the same argument. "I can't help it!" No one ever sympathizes there.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:39 am

Many pedophiles make the same argument. "I can't help it!" No one ever sympathizes there.

Sympathy and belief are two different things.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:44 am

See, Sonja killed 1100 people and 23 murders in 22 game weeks and felt no regrets either. I'm sure that most of those 1100 felt they were innocent victims, too. So I figure that over 10 yrs, taking an 8 week vacation each year would amount to 22,000 people give or take, and I think that would also be with no regrets. That's kind of a mass murderer, don't you think? So given that, is she really any different than Paarthy? Think about it. That works out to 7.1428 people per day.

Paarthy gets pardoned.

I just never took the quest to kill Paarthurnax from the Blades.

PS: about the .1428 people/day...... what do you think the chamber in the Sanctuary is for?

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:41 am

Paarthurnax did a much greater crime, yet he felt no regret. This is one of the reasons why I killed him. There are more reasons, but since you mentioned regret...

We all have our dark little secrets. Paarthurnax did some pretty [censored] up things in the past but now he changed for the good. Instead of flying around slaughtering villages and cities hes on the mountain meditating. Yeah hes such a big bad dragon that deserves to be killed. Sorry but [censored] delphine and [censored] Esbern. If they want to kill him let them... but don't think that Paarthurnax will be fighting alone because he will have the dragonborn to be on his side.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:55 pm

would you let a bipolar serial killer out a thousand years later cuz he didn't know killing sentient beings for sport was a bad thing?

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:24 pm

That works out to 7.1428 people per day.

That's a productive work day. Employee of the Month!

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:53 am

He's not a human - he can't be guilty of a "crime". It's in his nature (which he's successfully fighting) - is a bear a criminal for killing a rabbit?

Quite a few people would claim aggression and violence are part of human nature but it wouldn't work as a defence in a law court.

» Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:23 pm

See, Sonja killed 1100 people and 23 murders in 22 game weeks and felt no regrets either. I'm sure that most of those 1100 felt they were innocent victims, too. So I figure that over 10 yrs, taking an 8 week vacation each year would amount to 22,000 people give or take, and I think that would also be with no regrets. That's kind of a mass murderer, don't you think? So given that, is she really any different than Paarthy? Think about it. That works out to 7.1428 people per day.

Paarthy gets pardoned.

I just never took the quest to kill Paarthurnax from the Blades.

PS: about the .1428 people/day...... what do you think the chamber in the Sanctuary is for?

Kill a man they call you murderer, kill a million they call you a hero. :cool:

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:41 am

That's a productive work day. Employee of the Month! :tongue:

And she'd be on the cover of "Bad Ass Weekly" -- Bad Ass of the Year edition.

» Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:45 am

Quite a few people would claim aggression and violence are part of human nature but it wouldn't work as a defence in a law court.

We're not talking about a "human".

And she'd be on the cover of "Bad Ass Weekly" -- Bad Ass of the Year edition.

Nice.