Permanent Goo and Ash Piles : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat May 07, 2011 11:42 am

It would be better if the character models disintegrated downwards, instead of just faded slightly and vanishing. Also, if the ash/goopiles started small and grew bigger instead of simply blinking in from nowhere.

» Sat May 07, 2011 5:53 pm

Huh, I didnt know enemies didnt respawn when you dematerialize them. That actually turns me off from energy weapons almost entirely. The goo/ash pile problem was never much of an issue due to the fact that they are just a few keystrokes from being gone for good using console commands, but I do hope they fixed this issue.

» Sat May 07, 2011 2:26 am

yes same here

» Sat May 07, 2011 12:55 pm

Never really noticed the everlasting goo puddles on the xbox.. but maybe I just didn't return to those areas to check. I mean once I cleared an area I didn't go back.
I actually don't like re-spawning of human, ghoul or super mutant enemies ... It doesn't make too much sense that they'd be replaced so fast. Creature enemies doesn't bother me as much. What I would really like to see is once you've cleared an area of human enemies.. settlers or factions that your friendly with move in to those areas. Or maybe scavenger creatures.

I agree. I do like going back to some areas to explore or to setup base and it just doesnt feel right that 3 days or so later they pop up again. I think having them replaced with scavengers/wild life/friendly settlers after they were killed by the PC would be a great idea

Well, not being able to loot it would be extremely frustrating, even game breaking, as you could potentially lose very rare and valuable, maybe unique items due to the whole disintegration thing if you couldn't lose them, even vital quest items could potentially be lost forever.

If it's going to remain in the game, which I think it will, it's necessary that you be able to loot them.

Not really. What could be done is that if you dematerialized them and they have a vital quest item it could be automatically moved to a storage box of theirs. If they are a respawning type of character then they could respawn with the item until you take it.

» Sat May 07, 2011 5:02 am

The goo and ash piles in vanilla need one tweak from the original version.
A Script on the ash and goo piles with On Load block with a counter which disabled and marks them for delete.
They vanish every time with this.

Once I got this into a mod, I went back to killing stuff with lasers, plasma, and alien weapons.

Enemys still respawn with this, even the Talon Company mercs I ashed

SCN SomeScriptNameScriptShort TimesBegin OnLoad	Set Times to Times + 1	If Times >= 2		Disable		MarkForDelete	EndIfEnd

» Sat May 07, 2011 9:16 am

yes

Is that your favorite word, stranger? Seriously, stop being so agreeable. It's starting to get a little creepy. Oh, and what gave you the impression that burnt or goo-ifyed enemies never respawn? On another note, looting goo or ash piles doesn't have to be unrealistic. Think of it like in Star Trek First Contact when they melted the Borg with Plasma Coolant. The organic components are all gone but the weapons and armor remain.

» Sat May 07, 2011 3:08 pm

It would be nice if plasma rifles, instead of turning people into goo, shot a hole in someone that you can see thourgh

» Sat May 07, 2011 7:45 pm

I should have said that some enemies wouldnt respawn after dematerialization at the very start.

» Sat May 07, 2011 12:19 pm

Yeah, the ever lasting goo and ash piles are pretty annoying. :banghead:

This.

» Sat May 07, 2011 6:43 am

... really? Some people will [censored] about anything.

» Sat May 07, 2011 8:47 am

i think you make it too big of a deal

» Sat May 07, 2011 3:55 pm

Does anyone know if Fallout New Vegas will have the permanent goo and ash piles fixed? Those were so annoying in Fallout 3 ( Xbox user so I couldn't delete them ). Thanks in advance.

» Sat May 07, 2011 5:10 pm

I think there already was a topic on this but I don't think so

I hate them too or at least the plasma goo I didn't really mind the ashes.

» Sat May 07, 2011 9:56 am

Yeah, not sure anything has changed... Luckily I am getting the PC version again (yay for G.E.C.K.!) :fallout:

» Sat May 07, 2011 4:36 pm

I doubt it, but what's the big issue with them anyway?

» Sat May 07, 2011 5:54 pm

i liked the fact that they stayed, it made it realistic and plus it wasnt hurting anything

» Sat May 07, 2011 7:32 pm

I see them as testaments to my fire superiority.

» Sat May 07, 2011 6:55 pm

I doubt it, but what's the big issue with them anyway?

well they get annoying and can cause lag

» Sat May 07, 2011 9:49 pm

i think you make it too big of a deal

is hoping that they fix something somthing unimportant?

» Sat May 07, 2011 8:48 am

i know ayy, they were really annoying and turned me off energy weapons.

» Sat May 07, 2011 7:17 pm

i liked the fact that they stayed, it made it realistic and plus it wasnt hurting anything

So you think goo and ash piles will remain in the same place bubbling/smoldering even though in game it has been almost 1 full year after youve turned them into goo/ash.

That is why I am personally all for goo/ash piles disappearing after so long.

» Sat May 07, 2011 4:53 pm

Hmmm, I never had such a problem with Energy Weapons. Any goo/ash piles I would create out of enemies, went away after a while, the enemies never came back though, or maybe they did, I can't recollect whether they did or not at the moment.

» Sun May 08, 2011 12:26 am

I'm seeing a lot of people say that this turned them off of energy weapons. It certainly did for me, which is a shame, because energy weapons are one of the big draws of the Fallout universe.

That's why I ended up liking the Gauss Rifle because it behaved like a Small Gun (which is what it really is, so it doesn't really count). So I really hope they do fix it in some way, as in doing away with the piles altogether (my preference), or at least making them disappear like normal bodies.

» Sat May 07, 2011 10:21 pm

im on the fence for this becuase i'd kill the animals with harknesses gun near big town and goo em and then they wouldnt kill big town so idk but i do hate the piles lying around

» Sat May 07, 2011 4:18 pm

I hated Goo Piles or Ash seems too Bad.. Like too unrealistic.. not even funny or anything.. Just plain Bad.

They should just leave Markings on the body.

Anything but ash/Goo.