God damnit, I wish I could just go back in time and show Marx what his ideas have caused. He'd probably never write again.

epic fail

Call me ignorant, but what does Karl Marx who had nothing to do with the IRS, and more to do with Communism, or Marxism, have to do with someone taking out an IRS building? Which will be probably repaired eventually.

That said, nutty or not, I do wish he solved his problems in a more peaceful manner, or more yelling even...anything but hurting other people.

It seems two people were killed. I don't know if that includes the man flying the plane.

Yep pilot is dead.

Guess the person said to be in critical condition didn't make it.

Yeah, I knew he is dead. I just didn't know if it was stating civilian deaths.

Not sure if I'm upset at the IRS being attacked. They do it to the taxpayers enough.

Btw, you can read his rant http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html

My bad, I :facepalm: myself. I didn't read it right. I tried to find who is killed but I couldn't.

If you flow from the premise that he isn't lying about what his experiences involved, you cannot blame him for the ineptitude of his accountant or the oppressiveness of government agents.

I've seen people hosed by CPAs and "accountants" who did sloppy work that landed them in an IRS audit. A lot of people holding themselves out as "experts" in tax preparation are no more competent than the average Joe using Turbo Tax. My dad got slammed on a tax bill because his "expert" told him he could cash out an investment with no tax penalty....odd that the "expert" didn't know better.

I personally know a man who went through 3 years of Hell with the IRS over something that, in the end, the IRS dropped after admitting they they initially made an error and that he did nothing wrong....no apology for all the stress, costs, etc. he went through for those 3 years.

Clearly this guy's early misadventures was the result of his own choices, but he was correct....since 2001 (especially since 9/11) it's been real bad in a lot of markets, and I know a lot of people who had high hopes of success and prosperity that simply evaporated after 9/11. The market changed and they were in no position to bounce back from it. Lots of them are angry and bitter over it, but they've learned to move on. This guy let it eat at him until he went over the edge.

Next time I get a big tax bill I'll burn my partner and daughter in their beds then. Yeah, that's a fine idea. I shoulda thought of that earlier.
And when I invest in markets I know I only invest what I can afford to lose. Rule 1. :shrug: There are ways to handle your finances correctly and guys who fly their planes into buildings. I wonder which route to take. You know, responsibility, in my hands, taking it.

Flying a plane into a building and trying to immolate your loved ones is not the correct way to deal with taxation discrepanies.
He's right up there with people who shoot up business and schools because they couldn't handle the stress and fallout stemming from of their own particular situations.
Instead of actually doing something constructive about it and acknowledging that they don't have absolute power, they cause more suffering.

This man piloted a damn plane into a building over tax problems. He's too badass... he's not dead... the man just wants us to think he is.

He's out there. Like a caped crusader. Hunting down tax collectors and beaurocrats.

Well at his time it was and sort of still is that all the capitalists were in power and then that the working class would rebel. Different people act differently.

"I'm mad because I had to pay taxes. So just for that, I'm gonna go toss a plane into the IRS building."

Btw, using planes as darts to throw into buildings is getting REALLY pathetic. As if 9/11 wasn't enough already...

Eurocrats possibly?
Lord knows there are plenty of them.
Orhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binturong?
Bureaucrats? They hide in bureaus it says here.
Remember, know your enemy!

I wish I could say I was sad about what happened, but apart from the fact that this man tried to calorificate his loved ones and killed at least one person inside the IRS building, I don't feel bad for the IRS at all.

I have no sympathy for him. He could have sold his plane (pretty nice plane) and at the worst, sold his house. Millions of people are doing it simply because they don't have a job (or a plane for that matter). And then he torches his house (no insurance for arson or suicide) and his wife is still on the hook for the tax debt. Not to mention the effect he has had on the other victims.

:shakehead:

I don't mind paying taxes, but this? All I can say is :facepalm: .

Was it HIS plane? I thought I had read he stole it?

He just wanted to make a scene about it, couldn't have just hung or drowned himself but he had to let the world feel his pain too. Well it is to an extent understandable if he was in a state of depression and wanted to get back at the world. Even though, two wrongs don't make a right.

If it was depression though, this is because of tax (someone confirm that please, I just looked at the thread comments since the link to the report was tl;dr).

Although Grimstad makes a good point:

For the people who don`t feel sorry for the IRS people. Grow the [censored] up! Taxes are paid by everyone so you can having running water, police and an Army to protect you and the list goes on. It is apart of being in a wonderful 1st world country and be glad you don`t have a 13% sales tax.

..lighten up a little. Do you have a personal stake in this whole situation? Maybe the forumers would be a little more respectful if they knew that you were his cousin or whatever. But, I doubt you are. Why are you offended by this?

@HeyYou: Yes, it was his plane.

Some people just resort to suicide when they're depressed, because they think it's a good idea.. but if they had the chance to reflect on their decision, they probably wouldn't have done it. Maybe they should pre-reflect before they make their decision.

Would giving my thoughts on this be considered politics?

Edit: Actually, if I have to ask, then it probably is..so I'll just move right along.

It's not just about not paying taxes, there is more involved.