At least I have not seen on this forum anyone called a casual [censored]. Also, some people are dikes so ignore them the best you can.

There is scientific evidence that people who use Internet Explorer are less intelligent than people who use alternate browsers. Xbox is the IE of platforms, ispo facto...

...I kid! The reason I don't use a xbox isn't because thier idiot proof. It's because Xbox is really really old, and I simply won't repurchase after the last one went RROD, and also because the nextbox will antiquate the 360 well before I got my money's worth.

But mostly I think it's funny that the OP is defensive about his IQ. If you're truly a smarty pants, then what do you care what a bunch of forum trolls think? It's not like you'd be silly enough to believe that a vocal minority actually represents PC gamers? PC gamers are really just mad at Bethesda for being sent to the back of the bus, and only the dimmer PC users will transfer that anger to console players who are guilty of nothing but preferring simplicity and price. The fact that the game is scaled to lowest common denominator means that gaming isn't an elitist sport.

i dont think platform has intellectual impact.

personality/attitude tho, possibly

:lol: Yeah, I find it really interesting.

I'd say the major difference is that a lot of PC gamers like to contribute in some way to games. PC gamers, in my opinion and observations, have a more thorough understanding of how games work. Console gamers are, essentially, discouraged to modify games in any way. Such as JTagging an Xbox, or modifying save files. These small things can get you banned on a console - something, mind you, can't happen on a PC. I think this major difference is the key to the differences and explains - some of - the elitism commonly acquainted with PC gamers.

As for my opinion on the communities, my experience with XBL was that there were a lot of people who just wanted to play, a decent number of good people, and a memorable minority of douchebags. I'd be stuck in games with nobody talking, then jump to a game where I'm being insulted to no end. It was very poor, and I quickly gave up XBL. Having friends to play with only kept me going a tad longer, until I dropped XBL altogether. PC gaming has more people with mics, depending on the game of course, who aren't douchebags. It's hard to generalize, but I'd say the most aggravating part of the PC gaming community is a trend of pretentious behavior. This is found in all gaming communities, however I found it most prevalent on the PC. It probably has to do with the demographic of high end PCs vs. consoles...In which there's certainly a difference.

All in all, I dunno. Both are very similar but the PC has kept me playing due to other stuff, like modding.

Oh and OP, and to whomever else this may apply, please try and use appropriate grammar when you're attempting to make an argument for intelligence. It's ironicly funny to read posts like that, and weakens your point.

Generalizations like that all come from insecurity. Platform wars, of course, go both ways (i.e., "PC gamers are all pasty antisocials that live in their parents' basemant"), and are in no way restricted to the subject of gaming platforms. Insecure people tend to be big jerks on the internet and platform wars are just one of the many ways that manifests.

I LUV MY XBOX!!! I TRYED TO PLAY SKIRIM ON THE PC BUT I CUDNT INSTAL IT SO I ASKD MY FREIND AND HE INSTALED IT BUT DEN THE CONTRROLS WAR 2 DIFICULTTS LOL

Indeed. :tongue:

I'd say it has everything to do with personality/attitude. Many don't just purchase a specific brand, they identify with it. You see this in all things; I'm a Chevy guy, I'm a Mac , I drink Pepsi, I'm a Democrat, I'm a PC Gamer, etc. Frankly this is what every advertising executive wants, they want you to personally identify with a specific brand so that you will be a regular customer who never dreams of going with the competing brand. Did you ever see those ridiculous commercials where there are a bunch of people having a party on their roof and dancing around holding jars of Miracle Whip? Or the guy riding around in a truck and blowing stuff up while drinking a soda that's "just for men?" Do people really think that a condiment will make them into a hipster or that they can become a badass by choosing a different drink? How about the ads that show the results of a taste test, are they telling you that theirs is a better product or that theirs is more popular? Instead of looking at two brands and choosing which is better for you there is a push to view your choice as which is better period.

If I weighed all the possible variables and decided that brand A was better for me vs overall superior to all others and someone else buys brand B then what does that tell me? Either that person has different needs and tastes or someone has made an error in determining value, and since I know I did my research so they must be wrong. What possible reason would someone have for clearly choosing the inferior brand? Maybe they don't know any better so I should educate them. Maybe they are morally corrupt somehow, or mentally challenged. By choosing brand B is that person tacitly attacking me personally? This may not, and in fact usually isn't, a conscience stream of thought but rather an emotional response. But it all originates from differences in personality.

Myself, I'm a tinkerer. That is part of my personality, it is part of who I am. I can't leave anything alone, I have to take it apart and see how it works, see how it's put together and see if I can recreate something just as good if not better. For me "simple plug and play" = "Boooorrrriiiing", but tell me that something has hundreds of moving parts that have to kept at just the right state in order to function and I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on it. Does this mean there is something wrong with me, okay yeah probably, but does it make my choices any more/less valid?

We all make hundreds of decisions about what we do every day, it is the culmination of these choices that define us. To argue about them with someone else is a futile as arguing over whether a glass is half full or half empty.

I think that was intended to make it more funnier.

Isn't it obvious?

PC gamers are smarterer because they can google stuff to find it out but if you're on console you couldn't (at least until now). But PC people are still smarterer because they can surf the web fasterer.

See the facts are all there :deal:

My favourite was the guy who spelled 'ipso facto' wrong...Latin fails always make me laugh

You get it in all areas of life - such is living in a capitalistic, consumerist society where things define you as a person. Gaming platforms, cars, clothes, hairstyles, house décor... "I flipped through catalogs and wondered: What kind of dining set defines me as a person?"

Clearly owning this type of thing over that type of thing is indicative of their superior intelligence, taste, sense of humour, their general standing in life and their attractiveness to whatever six they want to attract, and they would like to let you know this. Because it's very important to them for you to know.

Why have we had so many threads with people bawwing about people picking on massive companies that don't care about them today? Stop being so easily offended. Bethesda or whatever other company can survive without you brown-nosing it all the time.

Welcome to the Internet. Where freedom of speech is at its best. It's going to happen whether you like it or not. I agree that people can get offensive, but if you don't want to see the offensive material, then don't look at it, or don't comment on it...

Universal adage for everything: People are stupid. No exceptions.

this/\. Were all gamers so why complain of how we game?

Let's just put it this way.. the forums have long been seething with teenage hormone-laden posts from kids and young advlts who seem to think their subjective choice for a console or platform denotes treating a product like a religion or sports team, and need every bit of reinforcement to give themselves assurance for said choice. From the business perspective of Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Nvidia, AMD, etc., this is wonderful news.

Meh...I laugh at those who care what other do with their time and then get raged about as those people won't conform

I own a PC, Wii and two Xbox 360s. I don't play the Wii except on rare occasions, I only play arcadey games on the 360 but all of Bethesda's games are played on my PC.

As for what platform I prefer, PC.

:shrug: Be less offended then. People will generalize and make blanket statements to put other people down. You'll see this happen many more times in your life and being offended by it and making a thread about it on forums serves no purpose.

On a more general note, what is it with people always saying how offended they are about something? Why do they expect anyone to care? Being offended isn't harmful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg.

Oh god no, maybe the people who take time to learn and be gamers/use computers for some specialized task. But out there are a vast majority of morons who have no idea. This http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-guy-whos-fixing-your-computer-hates-you/ should explain everything. No I'm quite afraid to diagnose everyone stupid until proven smart.

I prefer consoles for several reasons:

First of all, a lot of games release on consoles first. I don't have to constantly be worrying about upgrading my system when a new game comes out, my console is ready to eat up whatever I throw in there. I don't have to wait to install a game, I can toss in the disc and begin playing. When my friends or cousins come over, we can all just grab a controller and play, rather than taking turns, or huddling around a single monitor. I'm used to using a controller (though I'll admit in this one particular case, a mouse is better, but I'm simply not accustomed to it). I have way more friends on XBL than Steam, a lot of which are in my region so I can just jump into their online lobbies and play without lag.

I could go on forever, really. I respect a PC gamers opinion, but I sure as hell don't share it. I doubt intelligence is a real factor though, it's just preference.

The article in that link is mostly about people using their PCs for internet, chatting and word processing

Personally I hate PC Gamers.

Many of those people are older and allegedly "wiser" people who might know more than a console gamer. I seriously doubt it. Other than a very slim subset of PC users the majority of people who use computers are not all that smart. He said he thought PC users were older and thus wiser, I have proven him the fallacy of that logic. Older doesn't equal wiser. Another example is the Uncharted series who have a fan base of the 32+ range for fans of that series, they're sending the exact same dumb hate mail as anyone. Age = Wisdom is false. So completely false.