Playstation Network Up May 14? : Othor Games

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:31 pm

Yes!@Miller Do you use a PS3?

I own one but currently my dad is using while he's out on disability.

People will be regretting the switch when PSN is restored.

Why is that?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:34 pm

This has nothing to do with console wars (the 360 is actually FAR more likely to have a hardware malfunction than the PS3), but going to the 360 to avoid product failure is a bit nonsensical. Entirely switching one's main platform to an unreliable platform because the other one had a temporary respite from online service doesn't make all too much sense, for me. :shrug: I'm not criticizing the decision, but I don't believe it makes much sense to go to the 360 for a reliable product.

That most likely is true about the failure rate but, microsoft unlike sony will most likely give you a free replacement(which they tend to mess up and give you and extra one) or charge you half of the consoles cost. Sony I've heard and seen, does a lot less.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:15 am

That most likely is true about the failure rate but, microsoft unlike sony will most likely give you a free replacement(which they tend to mess up and give you and extra one) or charge you half of the consoles cost. Sony I've heard and seen, does a lot less.

I got a free PS3 from Sony after I had the dreaded yellow light of death outside my warranty period. All it took was one phone call.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony is going to offer me when the network's back up.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:28 pm

That most likely is true about the failure rate but, microsoft unlike sony will most likely give you a free replacement(which they tend to mess up and give you and extra one) or charge you half of the consoles cost. Sony I've heard and seen, does a lot less.

Sony's console has a one year warranty by default and the 360 a three year warranty. It doesn't cost much to extend the PS3's warranty, however (no more than Live would cost for a year) and the PS3's failure rate is far below the 360's. From all I've seen and heard regarding the matter, at least in the original (meaning non-slim) PS3s and 360s, the PS3 had about a 10% failure rate (well within average electronics failure rates) while the 360 had a 50-60% failure rate (variable based on location tested, no collective average). I am, by no means, defending Sony's incompetent security measures (or rather lack of), but the PS3 has no need for such an extended warranty time. Losing one's console for at least a couple weeks, losing one's hard drive (and all saved data), and having to EXPECT one's console to break just don't seem acceptable, to me. That's just me, though. I hate faulty hardware and I worry about what the lack of impact on 360 sales doesn't say to console manufacturers of the future (I fear they won't take all too many measures towards making quality products because they will sell, anyway).

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:46 pm

I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony is going to offer me when the network's back up.

30 days of PS+ and a free game from a selection of Sony's choosing.

» Sun May 29, 2011 3:24 am

30 days of PS+ and a free game from a selection of Sony's choosing.

That's garbage, however, I'd say. For the PS+, related content requires continued use of PS+, and I'm not doing that. I've also heard nothing of this game and I doubt such a game would even be good, anyway. What's most important to me is that Sony learns from this mistake.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:40 am

I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony is going to offer me when the network's back up.

A free month of PSN+? Lol.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:30 am

The last failure percentages I saw for the 2 consoles had about a 5% difference. The thing about rrod is thAt it was such a stupid mistake on Microsofts part. I use my 360 constantly and have only got rrod once.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:36 pm

The last failure percentages I saw for the 2 consoles had about a 5% difference. The thing about rrod is thAt it was such a stupid mistake on Microsofts part. I use my 360 constantly and have only got rrod once.

I don't know what you saw, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An image showing various error codes of the original model Xbox 360.
The Xbox 360 video game console is subject to a number of technical problems and failures that can render it unusable. Many of the issues can be identified by a series of glowing red lights flashing on the face of the console; the three flashing red lights (nicknamed the "Red Ring of Death" or "RRoD")[1] being the most infamous. There are also other issues that arise with the console, such as discs becoming scratched in the drive and "bricking" of consoles due to dashboard updates. Since its release on November 22, 2005, many articles have appeared in the media portraying the Xbox 360's failure rates,[2][3][4] with the latest estimate by warranty provider SquareTrade to be 23.7%,[5] and the highest estimate being 54.2% by a Game Informer survey.[6] There has been legal action taken attempting to hold Microsoft responsible for the Xbox 360's failure rate and provide compensation for those affected

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3

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A 2009 study by SquareTrade, a warranty provider, found a two-year failure rate of 10% for PlayStation 3s.[149] According to Ars Technica, the number of PlayStation 3 consoles that have experienced failure is well within the normal failure rates in the consumer electronics industry.[150]

However, in September 2009, the BBC television programme Watchdog aired a report investigating the purported "yellow light of death" issue, which affects fewer than 0.5% of PlayStation 3s sold in the UK.[151] The yellow light indicates a non-specific hardware failure which renders the system unusable.

The program also noted that the PlayStation 3 has a one-year warranty (typical of most consumer electronics products), which does not exclude more extensive consumer rights under Sale of Goods legislation. Out-of-warranty PlayStation 3 owners can pay Sony a set fee for a refurbished console.[152]

In response to the tone of the program Sony UK managing director Ray Maguire issued a document criticizing the program and citing potential attempts to harm Sony and PlayStation brand and stating that the three PlayStation 3 systems the program tested were not evidence of a manufacturing defect.

I'm not sure what the slim models' failure rates are, but I imagine both are less than the failure rates above (which were for the non-slim versions). In this case of the slim 360, however, they now only offer a standard one year warranty.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:18 pm

Why? Because he switched away from a product that failed?

When they give away 75 million ccs, I see that as a failure.

are you serious? how in any way has it failed? just because PSN went down doesn't mean it failed at all. And just because they are giving away 75 million ccs doesn't mean they failed either. They actually know what they are doing and care for the customer after a huge fiasco like this. yes this was a fiasco, but a failure is shutting down PSN and never having it come up again. Failure is not pooling a vast amount of time, effort, and their own money they didn't intend on spending into putting the network back up.

I am glad that PSN got hacked so now Sony has a new security system and is going to come out much stronger then Microsoft.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:24 am

Your basing your statements on wikpedia who is basing it on a survey over 5 years old, not exactly reliable. I would go into further detail but I'm on my iPhone.

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:43 am

Your basing your statements on wikpedia who is basing it on a survey over 5 years old, not exactly reliable. I would go into further detail but I'm on my iPhone.

Wikipedia IS reliable. The rumor that it isn't is an old teacher's fable meant to stop student's from simply copy-pasting things from Wikipedia on to their homework. Truly, Wikipedia is reliable. The survey also is not five years old. The last PS3 survey is about 2 1/2 years old, but that's about the oldest back it goes. There is no doubt about it. The 360 is a very faulty piece of hardware. The three year warranty didn't stem from nothing. People need to realize this. Faults need to be criticized and lessons need to be learned.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:21 pm

Wikipedia IS reliable. The rumor that it isn't is an old teacher's fable meant to stop student's from simply copy-pasting things from Wikipedia on to their homework. Truly, Wikipedia is reliable. The survey also is not five years old. The last PS3 survey is about 2 1/2 years old, but that's about the oldest back it goes. There is no doubt about it. The 360 is a very faulty piece of hardware. The three year warranty didn't stem from nothing. People need to realize this. Faults need to be criticized and lessons need to be learned.

The Ps3 is obviously the better of the consoles hardware wise.My point is people over exaggerate it's failure rate.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:02 pm

Wikipedia IS reliable. The rumor that it isn't is an old teacher's fable meant to stop student's from simply copy-pasting things from Wikipedia on to their homework. Truly, Wikipedia is reliable. The survey also is not five years old. The last PS3 survey is about 2 1/2 years old, but that's about the oldest back it goes. There is no doubt about it. The 360 is a very faulty piece of hardware. The three year warranty didn't stem from nothing. People need to realize this. Faults need to be criticized and lessons need to be learned.

The Ps3 is obviously the better of the consoles hardware wise.My point is people over exaggerate the 360's failure rate.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:16 pm

The Ps3 is obviously the better of the consoles hardware wise.My point is people over exaggerate it's failure rate.

It takes quite a bit to prompt a company to put up a three year warranty on any product. The failure to properly secure user information over the PSN, the malfunctions of the 360, the horrible lack of worthy titles and graphical power on the Wii... companies really do make huge and stupid mistakes. I believe you when you say your own personal experience with the 360 wasn't too bad, but I want to see these things heavily attacked... all of them. I worry quite a bit, so you'll have to get used to that (:P), but if the future of console gaming leads down a completely unstable road, I may just have to quit, and I don't want to. I believe that Microsoft will address their failures (likely started with slim; three year warranties aren't cheap), Sony theirs (1 million dollar insurance policies aren't cheap), and Nintendo theirs because these things have been criticized, and I hope they truly are.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:41 am

The Ps3 is obviously the better of the consoles hardware wise.My point is people over exaggerate it's failure rate.

YES!!!! I have finally realized this now. I am still wondering however how PS3 has a worse failure rate then Xbox 360. I have heard countless people tell me about the red ring of death, or the Xbox crashing and freezing. I haven't really heard or seen anything about the PS3 really giving anyone problems.

now the first one on the other hand....

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:44 pm

Uh Seti 18, didn't your PS3 crash on you a while ago? I can't remember if it did or not, but I clearly remember you in a few posts months ago regetting getting a PS3 and wishing you got a 360 instead. So I guess you have changed your mind again.

I do not even know now what you are trying to prove here. I am at a loss of what the debate is now.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:43 pm

Wikipedia IS reliable. The rumor that it isn't is an old teacher's fable meant to stop student's from simply copy-pasting things from Wikipedia on to their homework. Truly, Wikipedia is reliable. The survey also is not five years old. The last PS3 survey is about 2 1/2 years old, but that's about the oldest back it goes. There is no doubt about it. The 360 is a very faulty piece of hardware. The three year warranty didn't stem from nothing. People need to realize this. Faults need to be criticized and lessons need to be learned.

Nothing you read on the internet is realiable, this was proving when sony was caught editing Halos pages on wikipedia.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:29 am

I am at a loss of what the debate is now.

I'm just trying to say the failure rate of the 360 is exaggerated.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:02 pm

good god another psn thread. merge these topics.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:04 pm

A free month of PSN+? Lol.

I was thinking more in terms of the games they're going to make available.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:28 pm

Well big ____________________ surprise.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:33 pm

Well big ____________________ surprise.

What?

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:41 pm

What?

Still nothing on Sony's end.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:45 am

That's what I was going to say. Thief.

I want a PS3 but this whole debacle has really turned me off.

PS3 is great, since it already happened I am inclined to say its not going to happen again for a while but hey, you never know. But seriously the PS3 is beast.

The last failure percentages I saw for the 2 consoles had about a 5% difference. The thing about rrod is thAt it was such a stupid mistake on Microsofts part. I use my 360 constantly and have only got rrod once.

My friend plays his PS3 constantly and has the original model, it has never needwed repairs, ro to be taken in and it has never died, same thign with me. I know people with Xboxes who have been through 3 in about 2 years, add that money up and you'll find that you pay alot mroe for the 360 than you the PS3.